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    The End of al Qaeda? Top Counter-Terror Officials Envisioning Terror Group's Demise

    The End of al Qaeda? Top Counter-Terror Officials Envisioning Terror Group's Demise
    By JASON RYAN
    June 29, 2011


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    Brennan, Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counter-Terrorism, described how U.S. and allied counter-terrorist efforts have battered al Qaeda, killing top leadership, strangling their finances around the globe and, in effect, leaving Osama bin Laden as a discouraged recluse before he was killed by U.S. Navy SEALs on May 2.

    "We have affected al Qaeda's ability to attract new recruits. We've made it harder for them to hide and to transfer money, and pushed al Qaeda's finances to its weakest point in years. Along with our partners in Pakistan and Yemen, we've shown al Qaeda that it will enjoy no safe haven, and we have made it harder than ever for them to move, to communicate, to train and to plot." he said. "If we hit al Qaeda hard enough and often enough, there will come a time when they simply can no longer replenish their ranks with skilled leaders that they need to sustain their operations. That is the direction in which we're headed today.

    "Taken together, the progress I've described allows us, for the first time, to envision the demise of al Qaeda's core leadership in the coming years. It will take time, but make no mistake: al Qaeda is in its decline," he said.

    Brennan said that before the notorious terror leader's death, bin Laden was frustrated by his operators' inability to carry out major attacks.

    "It's clear from the material that were recovered from the bin Laden compound that bin Laden himself recognized that they really were being pummeled. He wanted to carry out attacks, and he was frustrated with a lot of his commanders, that they weren't carrying out these attacks." Brennan said. "The commanders were saying to him, you know, 'Sorry, we'd love to be able to do it, but we can't…your aspirations outpace our capabilities.'"

    Brennan also said that bin Laden was apparently concerned about the PR war with the West and considered efforts to rebrand the group by changing its name.

    "Bin Laden clearly sensed that al Qaeda is losing the larger battle for hearts and minds. He knew that al Qaeda's murder of so many innocent civilians, most of them Muslims, had deeply and perhaps permanently tarnished al Qaeda's image in the world. He knew that he had failed to portray America as being at war with Islam," Brennan said. "He worried that our recent focus on al Qaeda as an enemy had prevented more Muslims from rallying to his cause, so much so that he even considered changing al Qaeda's name."

    more: Counter-Terror Officials 'Envision Demise of Al Qaeda' - ABC News

    Is this job not worth finishing? Or do people think it's an impossible job? Or, maybe that they're just bullshitting us with their assessment of their progress?

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    It's an impossible job, at least at this time, because Al Qaeda is an ideal more than anything else. I watched the movie Inception with greatv interest, and a part of the plot that held my attention is that once an idea takes hold, it's impossible to fully get rid of the idea. This I believe to be true.

    Al Qaeda is the result of religious fudementalism out of control in an oppressed region that has not fully acclimated to the 21st Century, flames of hate and intolerance that have been stoked by American imperialsm in their region. Until we solve the problems that created Al Qaeda, we will just get rid of one terror organiation only to have another one that shares its ideal replace it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lion View Post
    It's an impossible job, at least at this time, because Al Qaeda is an ideal more than anything else. I watched the movie Inception with greatv interest, and a part of the plot that held my attention is that once an idea takes hold, it's impossible to fully get rid of the idea. This I believe to be true.

    Al Qaeda is the result of religious fudementalism out of control in an oppressed region that has not fully acclimated to the 21st Century, flames of hate and intolerance that have been stoked by American imperialsm in their region. Until we solve the problems that created Al Qaeda, we will just get rid of one terror organiation only to have another one that shares its ideal replace it.

    Ah, I fell asleep on that movie around Christmastime, when my husband, daughter, and I were watching it. Not the movie's fault, I just couldn't keep my eyes open. She said it was awesome, and wanted it for Christmas, so we could all watch it together. My husband liked it too. I didn't get to see it again before she left for college and took the DVD with her. I should watch it while she's home for the summer.

    I hope it's not impossible. I have never let go the hope that those responsible for 9-11 would be got.

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    Even though Obama pleases me by bucking his base and continuing Bush's policies, strategies and tactics in the war on terror, I wonder if it's a smart move to let them know that we think they are toast. I think it's possible they'll just decide to go underground for a while...till we think we beat them and think we are safe. Then they'll hit us again. I also wonder if the purpose of this article isn't just a political strategy for Obama's election run. I wouldn't put that past him at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoJoGunne View Post
    Even though Obama pleases me by bucking his base and continuing Bush's policies, strategies and tactics in the war on terror, I wonder if it's a smart move to let them know that we think they are toast. I think it's possible they'll just decide to go underground for a while...till we think we beat them and think we are safe. Then they'll hit us again. I also wonder if the purpose of this article isn't just a political strategy for Obama's election run. I wouldn't put that past him at all.
    Oh hell, let them roar and threaten, just so long as their fangs have been effectively pulled. There are people in this country that claim to be Nazi's, loyal to the ideals and goals of their late leader, AH. But they sure as fuck are not the threat they were in 1944. And AQ is not the threat they were just a few years ago.
    When AQ pops their head up, cut it off. Repeat as needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Oh hell, let them roar and threaten, just so long as their fangs have been effectively pulled. There are people in this country that claim to be Nazi's, loyal to the ideals and goals of their late leader, AH. But they sure as fuck are not the threat they were in 1944. And AQ is not the threat they were just a few years ago.
    When AQ pops their head up, cut it off. Repeat as needed.
    Sounds like a good plan, Hollywood

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    keep the pressure on.


 

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