Support The Troops My Ass!

[namvet69]

Read this from March of this year. And then remember all the times the Bush neocons accused those against their insane policy to "support the troops!"
This IS NOT the exception but the general rule for returning warriors. I've already illustrated how the VA and military are now discharging Iraq and Afghan vets as unfit for duty because of PRE-Existing personality disorders to avoid paying for their care.

(CBS) Marine veteran Jonathan Schulze survived the war in Iraq but almost two years after he came home, it ended up killing him, reports The Early Show co-anchor Harry Smith.

He had one of the toughest jobs in the war: taming the insurgent hotbed of Ramadi in 2004.

"In two days of fighting his unit had lost 17 guys," said Jim Schulze, Jonathan's father.

Every family prays for the return of their loved one and the Schultzes were overjoyed that their son was coming home. But the young marine who fought in Iraq came back a different man. He was haunted by the carnage he witnessed and tormented by the guilt of surviving.

"In a matter of hours he could take and go from unbelievable anger and rage to just uncontrollable weeping," Jim Schulze said.

Jonathan was not alone. A new study says one in three veterans of the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan is suffering from psychological disorders, including post-traumatic stress. Jonathan had terrible nightmares, to the point his mother, Marianne Schulze, said, he was "afraid to close his eyes."

He turned to drugs, alcohol and fighting. He couldn't hold a job. Finally he asked his parents to take him to the VA hospital in St. Cloud, Minn.

"She asked, 'Why do you want to be seen?' and I was standing behind him and he was sitting in a chair, his shoulders were slumped and Jim was standing in the doorway and he said, 'I feel suicidal,' " Marianne Schulze said.

His parents say the VA told Jonathan they couldn't admit him that day and asked if he would call back the next day. He did but was told he was number 26 on a waiting-list and the VA didn't have enough beds for him. Four days later he hung himself.

"I feel cheated that my son's needs weren't taken care of," Jim Schulze said. "I feel cheated that in my mind, the condition that he was in was not for a valid reason."

The VA won't comment on Jonathan's case, but said they are looking into it and are reviewing their intake procedures.

It was as if Jonathan Schultze had died twice. His spirit had been snuffed out on the battlefield and without it he could find no reason to go on living.

"He was willing to go to Iraq and did what he had to do in Iraq, got injured in Iraq, and he comes home and a year and a half of his life was torture. And they couldn't help him, or refused to help him, or told him he was number 26," Marianne Schulze said.

Jim Schultze served three tours in Vietnam and understands post-traumatic stress. He is certain the VA isn't ready for the veterans who are coming home.

"It's unfortunate because you'll have more and more vets coming back with this and it's gonna be a larger problem all the time and it's gonna need to be dealt with," he said.

The Schulzes hope other families will get the help they need: The help Jonathon didn't get.

"Time goes on and they say that time is the only thing that heals, but you never forget," Jim Schultze said, "and the hurting never stops."

[johnlocke]

meantime the neocons and Bush apologists are busy spinning how this isn't a problem. The fact is that they don't WANT people to see the increase in suicides, and other psychological problems as a part of the same thing- a HUGE problem with the VA. Acknowledging that this is a problem would mean admitting that they DON'T support the troops, they merely support the war.

[Invayne]

Oh shit, that is sad. And it pisses me off to no end that they don't take this shit seriously. How can they? They're just a bunch of pencil pushing bureaucrats that have no clue OR care as to what's going on in the minds of people that have gone through more horrors in one day than they will ever see in a lifetime. Makes me sick.

[Invayne]

Jim Schultze served three tours in Vietnam and understands post-traumatic stress. He is certain the VA isn't ready for the veterans who are coming home.

Damn right they're not ready. They have no fucking clue what they're going to be dealing with.

[Dubyas-Twin-Sister]

Did they ever know? I've never met more bungling fools than I did when I went with a friend to the Naval hospital in Long Beach...ya'll thought Kaiser was bad in the 70s? Hell, they were The Mayo Clinic compared to those Naval quacks!

[namvet69]

Did they ever know? I've never met more bungling fools than I did when I went with a friend to the Naval hospital in Long Beach...ya'll thought Kaiser was bad in the 70s? Hell, they were The Mayo Clinic compared to those Naval quacks!

Dubs, ya have no idea! The VA is a maze of bullshit and complications worthy of a Joseph Heller novel. No! Even Joseph Heller would think he'd been abducted by aliens and transported to Fuckyouia! ( that's a remote planet where no one gives a shit)

[Invayne]

Dubs, ya have no idea! The VA is a maze of bullshit and complications worthy of a Joseph Heller novel. No! Even Joseph Heller would think he'd been abducted by aliens and transported to Fuckyouia! ( that's a remote planet where no one gives a shit)

Just imagine the VA for EVERY American...(Hillarycare)

[Dubyas-Twin-Sister]

They wrongly diagnosed my friend's husband with pneumonia. Turned out he had lung cancer. The only way he found out was when he went to a civilian emergency room one night when his fever hit 105. He never came home after being admitted that night.

[namvet69]

They wrongly diagnosed my friend's husband with pneumonia. Turned out he had lung cancer. The only way he found out was when he went to a civilian emergency room one night when his fever hit 105. He never came home after being admitted that night.

I take it back! You know! May your friend find peace. Luv ya Dubs.

[Dubyas-Twin-Sister]

Kees kees Nam...I just cannot believe the VA treats our Veterans like this. I'd be ashamed to be a VA doc.