Thread: Science FINALLY runs headlong into Climate Dogma

For years, we have been fed the Environmental dogma of inevitable global warming...

From today's news... Sunspot Hibernation..
Now I have been saying for years that they don't understand climate. Time for a whole lotta CYA...

Sun Headed Into Hibernation, Solar Studies Predicts

""We have some interesting hints that solar activity is associated with climate, but we don't understand the association," said Dean Pesnell, project scientist for NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO)."

Originally Posted by kmiller1610

For years, we have been fed the Environmental dogma of inevitable global warming...

From today's news... Sunspot Hibernation..
Now I have been saying for years that they don't understand climate. Time for a whole lotta CYA...

Sun Headed Into Hibernation, Solar Studies Predicts

""We have some interesting hints that solar activity is associated with climate, but we don't understand the association," said Dean Pesnell, project scientist for NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO)."

Your take in this is kinda vague. You make a claim in the title of the thread but the op does not explain why the claim is true. I turned on the radio today when I was in my car and towards the end of his show I heard Rush talking about this and drawing some implications also. When a scientist says he, or she, does not understand something, it is just an objective statement of fact. The whole idea with the right's ideological position on the scientific topic of climate change is based on the dogmatic proclamation that they do understand. They claim to know with certainty something that even the scientists are saying is not completely figured out yet. If you want to respond to my post then the logical place to start is by stating if you know with certainty about climate science. Please, no dogmatized answers either.

I come to my own conclusions. Nobody in the alarmist community has ever explained the relationship between the unpredictable and highly variable natural cycles and the influence of mankind on warming. And without some idea of weighting, what do we really know? We have been bombarded with the near certainty of warming with hardly a doubting note. Just google sunspot hibernation. Rush didn't come up with this. Speculation on low sunspot activity was appearing on the NASA site in 2008.

Originally Posted by anonnymous

Come on, global warming is big business, who cares about if and's or but's when there is money to be made.

i thought business was a good thing? creates jobs and all that stuff.

Originally Posted by anonnymous

I am not anti business just anti government about allowing the "Leaders" another reason to tax us.

they haven't taxed us yet. and probably won't.

Originally Posted by kmiller1610

I come to my own conclusions. Nobody in the alarmist community has ever explained the relationship between the unpredictable and highly variable natural cycles and the influence of mankind on warming. And without some idea of weighting, what do we really know? We have been bombarded with the near certainty of warming with hardly a doubting note. Just google sunspot hibernation. Rush didn't come up with this. Speculation on low sunspot activity was appearing on the NASA site in 2008.

It has never been proven either way. From the perspective of the scientists, they would have to create a model that took all factors into account. The link you provided shows how scientists are objective to the point that they will admit what the do not know. They do not have a 100% locked in opinion because it is really not scientifically possible to create a model that takes all factors into account. However, The ideologs who are 100% sure that global warming is not caused or impacted by human activity are not basing thier views on science but instead a preponderance to be friendly with business OR a religious belief that only God can control the climate. Therefore, If I am going to listen to anybody, it is going to be the scientists and specifically not the idoelogs. If the "alarmists" turn out to be wrong and we wasted money going green, then I can live with that. On the other hand if the "alarmists" turn out to be right, everybody is going to have to live with that; and thier kids and grandkids also.