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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Do you not think there will be lies/distortions coming from both sides of the argument leading up to the recall election....?
    There may be, but the facts can't be disputed, credible bi-partisan sources don't lie and the people are not that naive.
    I suppose I can understand the callous selfish disregard of the conservatives. It is their pride in it that passes me by. Rack Jite

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mertex View Post
    There may be, but the facts can't be disputed, credible bi-partisan sources don't lie and the people are not that naive.
    Not sure which "facts" you think are going to win the day for the anti-Walker efforts. But emotion driven campaign battles like this one will likely be a free for all from both camps. (Could even get a little personal, gawd forbid.....)
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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Not sure which "facts" you think are going to win the day for the anti-Walker efforts. But emotion driven campaign battles like this one will likely be a free for all from both camps. (Could even get a little personal, gawd forbid.....)
    The facts about Walker's lies.

    These lies were repeated so many times by Walker, GOP Legislators, and the media they have passed for conventional wisdom. As a service to the people of Wisconsin who may have fallen prey to Scott Walker’s budget hijinks, here are the lies in Scott Walker’s statement exposed:
    The “Big Five” Lies in the Walker Budget – in his own words… « Badger Democracy
    I suppose I can understand the callous selfish disregard of the conservatives. It is their pride in it that passes me by. Rack Jite

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mertex View Post
    Do you think Scott Walker will be recalled. Republicans are claiming that the polls there show support for him, however, it is believed that those polls were generated by some conservative source and is not credible. I think he is as good as gone.[URL="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-walker-wisconsin-20120129,0,6211140.story"]





    Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker treads lightly before likely recall election - latimes.com[/URL]
    I wouldn't say that. He should be nervous though. Super PAC money is pouring in to oppose the local Republican congressional reps in both northern Minnesora and Wisconsin and that will slop over into the recall election for Walker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beatleboy View Post
    Good point, but i don't see the budget being fixed, and whomever is going to run against him will be sure to point out the behind the scenes monetary running of this man by his good billionaire buddies. The budget isn't going to stop trying to bust unions, he will continue to do that, and those average working folks can be far more convincing than the Koch Bros money when they hit the streets. I still am on the side that this man will be ousted. When does this recall vote come up?
    Wisconsin has lost upwards of 10,000 jobs per month since Walker became Gov. The first thing he did was give big tax cuts to corporation and up the deficit when he took office. Then he cut a billion to education in the current budget. Not a bright move in Wisconsin. Major cuts to education like that needed to be sold to residents not shoved down their throats. If cuts need to be made I believe the residents of Wisconsin would at this point prefer they come from a Democrat than Walker. That is the biggest problem he faces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryPorter View Post
    I wouldn't say that. He should be nervous though. Super PAC money is pouring in to oppose the local Republican congressional reps in both northern Minnesora and Wisconsin and that will slop over into the recall election for Walker.
    Most definitely he should be nervous. There seems to be a lot of confidence on both sides, it will be interesting.

    NBC Politics - Enough signatures collected to force Wis. Gov. Walker recall election
    I suppose I can understand the callous selfish disregard of the conservatives. It is their pride in it that passes me by. Rack Jite

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    [size=3][font=times]Walker is in hot water. No recall has ever been scheduled for a state governor this rapidly and with such a high number of enabling signatures.
    Meaningless argument.

    Goonionistas follow orders, or get pummeled. So when they're to sign a recall petition, they do it.

    It depends on what happens in Wisconsin before the election and who challenges him, but the fact that a recall has happened in this way at this point shows that his political footing has significant problems in the foundation. Meanwhile his opponents have built a very impressive and effective organization.
    Actually what it shows is the desperation of the goonions, who have only a 7% margin in the working population but dominate the field of government employees.

    The goonions are seeing their Great Gravy Train leaving the Wisconsin station and they're feeling anxious. Since Walkers reforms ARE working, the goonions are going to have an uphill battle to fight.

    Compounding the issue is that this election will be deemed a weathervane for the Kenyan re-election bid if Walker is recalled, and ignored if the recall steamroller breaks down.

    Now, it should be pointed out that the goonions earlier this year spent thirty five million dollars in Wisconsin so the GOP could hold the State Senate. That was nice of them, spending all that money to accomplish nothing for themselves. This is typical of goonions, wasting money and doing nothing.

    It's not something that we should encourage in goverment, though.

    Anyone here beleeeeeve, with all their tiny hearts, that the Wisconsin goonions came up with thiry five million dollars from in state? And you same people want to whine about the Koch brothers?

    It just goes to show that if you're a politician in a blue or purple state, if the unions decree your destruction at any cost, you're pretty much done.
    Did you miss the fact that the goonions didn't shift the control of the Wisconsin Senate to their corrupt side?

    The ends your argument right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Meaningless argument.

    Goonionistas follow orders, or get pummeled. So when they're to sign a recall petition, they do it.



    Actually what it shows is the desperation of the goonions, who have only a 7% margin in the working population but dominate the field of government employees.

    The goonions are seeing their Great Gravy Train leaving the Wisconsin station and they're feeling anxious. Since Walkers reforms ARE working, the goonions are going to have an uphill battle to fight.

    Compounding the issue is that this election will be deemed a weathervane for the Kenyan re-election bid if Walker is recalled, and ignored if the recall steamroller breaks down.

    Now, it should be pointed out that the goonions earlier this year spent thirty five million dollars in Wisconsin so the GOP could hold the State Senate. That was nice of them, spending all that money to accomplish nothing for themselves. This is typical of goonions, wasting money and doing nothing.

    It's not something that we should encourage in goverment, though.

    Anyone here beleeeeeve, with all their tiny hearts, that the Wisconsin goonions came up with thiry five million dollars from in state? And you same people want to whine about the Koch brothers?



    Did you miss the fact that the goonions didn't shift the control of the Wisconsin Senate to their corrupt side?

    The ends your argument right there.
    Snookie...you're such a troll.
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    i've yet to see any evidence this move is even in the republican playbook. obama's got a D on his helmet so republicans want to see him sacked. period." Highway234

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    Quote Originally Posted by beatleboy View Post
    My guess is the Koch Bros bought and paid for the polls to reflect whatever they want it to. The Bros run Walker and his governorship, and keep your eyes and ears peeled, cause there will be more bogusness coming when the recall gets into full swing. Bros will buy and pay for whatever, or whomever to try to thwart the recall, but it won't work, we all know how Walker and the Koch's are joined at the hip. The people have spoken, and i expect them to come out in droves at the ballot box. Bye bye Walker.
    Great more conspiracy theories. So, the koch brothers are out to get us all. Phui.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Great more conspiracy theories. So, the koch brothers are out to get us all. Phui.
    I don't know if they've bought and paid for the polls, but they have put a ton of money into Wisconsin politics and plan to put in much more for the GE 2012.
    According to Wisconsin campaign finance filings, Walker's gubernatorial campaign received $43,000 from the Koch Industries PAC during the 2010 election. That donation was his campaign's second-highest, behind $43,125 in contributions from housing and realtor groups in Wisconsin. The Koch's PAC also helped Walker via a familiar and much-used politicial maneuver designed to allow donors to skirt campaign finance limits. The PAC gave $1 million to the Republican Governors Association, which in turn spent $65,000 on independent expenditures to support Walker. The RGA also spent a whopping $3.4 million on TV ads and mailers attacking Walker's opponent, Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett. Walker ended up beating Barrett by 5 points. The Koch money, no doubt, helped greatly.
    Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker: Funded by the Koch Bros. | Mother Jones
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