Thread: What if global warming is a hoax?

LOL.

Time until someone says "Yes, it is" 10...9....8....7...

Originally Posted by Charles Stover

Shouldn't that caption say "but what if it's a big hoax and we wrecked the world economy for nothing?"

Close enough. 12 minutes is a bit long, but I'll take it.

Considering the alternative, I favor taking the risk on wrecking the economically. Given everything I've seen and heard on the issue, that's highly unlikely. What we are really talking about is the question "What if the scientists are wrong and we took a profit loss for nothing?"

Originally Posted by Divine Wind

Close enough. 12 minutes is a bit long, but I'll take it.

Considering the alternative, I favor taking the risk on wrecking the economically. Given everything I've seen and heard on the issue, that's highly unlikely. What we are really talking about is the question "What if the scientists are wrong and we took a profit loss for nothing?"

Which scientists would that be? There never was a consensus.

Originally Posted by Dutch

Which scientists would that be? There never was a consensus.

The scientists have detected a problem. Global warming is a fact. What isn't fact is the cause. Is it purely natural or is mankind making it worse. If the latter, how much worse?

You were a sailor. If the Navy said a batch of ice cream may be contaminated with poison do you eat it until it's proven to be poisonous or do you take precautionary action until you are sure?

Originally Posted by Divine Wind

The scientists have detected a problem. Global warming is a fact. What isn't fact is the cause. Is it purely natural or is mankind making it worse. If the latter, how much worse?

The temperature has, as best we know, risen by an average of 1.8 deg. fahrenheit in the last century, assuming our measurments are correct. This on a planet that has seen huge swings in temperature. You are aware the antartic was once warm enough to support vegitation and dinosaurs aren't you? You would also know most of north america and europe was once under an ice sheet hundreds of feet thick. All this before we managed to produce a single car. Remarkable when you think about it.


My adoptive father's parents lived thru the great depression in the ozark mountains. They were subsistance farmers. My father, as a small boy, hunted and fished for food. My grandfather raised corn to make whisky for cash. He also worked whenever possible. It wasn't possible much of the time. They lived in an honest to god shack made up of one inch boards covered with tar paper and a tin roof. They were still living in that shack in the 1960's when I used to stay with them in the summer. No, they had no indoor plumbing. They used bedpans and an outhouse. They were better off than my mother's people, my blood kin, because they actually owned the land they occupied. My mother's people never owned a house they lived in. They live in rented shacks, until my uncle bought a place, with a shack, for them to occupy the last five years of their lives.

We're only a couple of three generations away from that point now. Much of the rest of the world lives that way now, if they're lucky. It's just something to keep in mind when considering just what should be done about that 1.8 deg. average temperature raise that might or might not be as a result of human activity.

You were a sailor. If the Navy said a batch of ice cream may be contaminated with poison do you eat it until it's proven to be poisonous or do you take precautionary action until you are sure?

When I was in the navy they might have simply fed it to us. I remember being in the brig one time with a young man who pissed in the bug juice. It was found out after the fact. While the mess guys didn't knowingly give us that stuff on purpose they all thought it was a big joke. So, no, don't try to use the military to make any points with me. I loved the sea, the navy.....not so much.

Originally Posted by Dutch

The temperature has, as best we know, risen by an average of 1.8 deg. fahrenheit in the last century, assuming our measurments are correct.

Dude, I'm not a rocket scientist so I'm not going to argue it with you. If you don't want to accept the science, then feel free to join the ranks of Creationists, Peaceniks and anyone else who doesn't want to accept hard core reality in place of a personal, unsubstantiated viewpoint.

Since I'm not a rocket scientist, I will accept the information of those that are:
9 Ways NASA Can Tackle Climate Change: Scientific American

Climate Change: NASA's Eyes on the Earth

Earth Science data and services directory: Global Change Master Directory Web Site

Originally Posted by Divine Wind

Dude, I'm not a rocket scientist so I'm not going to argue it with you. If you don't want to accept the science, then feel free to join the ranks of Creationists, Peaceniks and anyone else who doesn't want to accept hard core reality in place of a personal, unsubstantiated viewpoint.

Since I'm not a rocket scientist, I will accept the information of those that are:
9 Ways NASA Can Tackle Climate Change: Scientific American

Climate Change: NASA's Eyes on the Earth

Earth Science data and services directory: Global Change Master Directory Web Site

There is no "the science" only varying scienctific opinions.