Thread: Evidence of Muhammad in Old Testament

Originally Posted by Roach

Yes because all muslims know Radicals!!
lets all fight extreemism and stop trying to point fingers at each other. Allah definatley got something right. And thats that nobody has superiorirty over another so lets stop trying to fight each other and give this extreemsits twats the boot... how'd that sound???

sounds like a most excellent idea, dude.

Originally Posted by AhabtheArab

The Religion of Islam - Bible Prophecies of Muhammad (part 1 of 4): Witnesses of Scholars
The Religion of Islam - Bible Prophecies of Muhammad (part 2 of 4): Old Testament Prophecies of Muhammad
The Religion of Islam - Bible Prophecies of Muhammad (part 3 of 4): New Testament Prophecies of Muhammad
The Religion of Islam - Bible Prophecies of Muhammad (part 4 of 4): More New Testament Prophecies of Muhammad
Muhammad In The Bible
Are There Predictions of Muhammad in the Old Testament?

Just thought this was cool.

AhabtheArab: let me provide you with one of Forum Rule Guidelines.

2. When posting a news story, please do not post just a link. At least include a summary of what the article is about.


I am still more than willing to wait for your thoughts regarding to the links that you provided. I do find some of them interesting, altough I am not a Muslim; however, I do not completely agree with how the arguement is structured, especially how the Bible verses are quoted. I think the person who posted it takes the scriptures out of the context.

For example:

John 14:16 “And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever.” (American Standard Version)

Muslims apparently believe that the comforter is Muhammad. I don't believe the same. I was troubled by how the Thread poster only used the verses & took out the verses that would not work in the sake of "making his point." His point no longer makes sense when you keep on reading onto verse 17. Where it says:

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

I do not have much time right now to review & respond to everything, but I will be back, meanwhile maybe the thread starter could post his summary so I know what he believes? Meanwhile, maybe I'll review all the links.

I've realized that apparently Muslims do refer their faith to the Bible? Is this true? I do not have very good knowledge of Quran so I'm just wondering about when Muslims refer their faith to Bible & Quran at other times. It is my understanding that Muslims take Jesus as no more than another prophet & believe the events that are mentioned on the Bible; the difference is the interpretation written as to Quran & Muhammad & Allah.

Are there a lot of people with good knowledge of Muslim belief? Fill me in.

They don't believe in all the events. For instance, they don't believe that Jesus died on the cross, but that he was raised up to Heaven before being killed.

I believe Muslims think it was Judas that was on the cross, but I'm not sure...

Yes I have studied the Religion. Christians believe the Bible per say the dead scrolls. The Koran was written after the Bible. They believe Jesus was just a prophet as does some other religions. Mohammad while in a cave was spoken to by the Ark Angel Gabriel and wrote the Koran. He received the first revelation at the age of 40 and died at the age of 63. They believe that he was a human being and not a divine being. No prophet shall come after him and those who obey Allah and follow the teachings of Muhammad shall be rewarded with paradise in the hereafter. Muhammad went into the skies and he reported what he saw and then he went to hell and reported what he saw and it is recorded in the Koran. They also believe that Jesus was not killed on the cross and believe that he did not die and he will be coming back on judgment day. This does not mean that they worship Muhammad he is only a servant of God as we all are. It is a lot like the Bible but some scriptures are left out. For example: the Jehovah's Witness bible it was written by its founder Charles Russell. He omitted over 30 scriptures and if you check their bible for John 5 v 4 it does not exist. When Russell was taken to court as he claimed to know Greek very well and this is how he claimed he translated the bible. They asked him about the letters in the Greek Alphabet and he did not know it. So he was found to be a liar.
To Christians Jesus is not a prophet but the Son, He healed the sick, he raised the dead, he turned water into wine, he walked on water, and He calmed the storms that were about to capsize a boat. John 14:6 - Jesus says to him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father unless by me.
John 14:7 - If ye had known me, ye would have known also my Father, and henceforth ye know him and have seen him.
John 14:11 - Believe *me* that I [[am]] in the Father and the Father in me; but if not, believe me for the works' sake themselves. John 14:21 - He that has my commandments and keeps them, he it is that loves me; but he that loves me shall be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will manifest myself to him.
John 4:23 - But [[the]] hour is coming and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and truth; for also the Father seeks such as his worshippers.
John 5:22 - for neither does the Father judge any one, but has given all judgment to the Son.
They believe you cannot go through Jesus because God said to have no other Gods before me and they think that is what we are doing. Also they believe that in the scripture it was speaking of Muhammad instead of Jesus.
I have studied almost every religion and if you understand why they think the way they do you can learn to respect their way of thinking. And yes I could go on and on with them and other religions but its always wise to try and understand where ones belief is coming from.

Yes, actually I am aware of that much about Islam, I just haven't had time to study Quran & spend time to study it. My question arose when I heard from Christian radio station broadcast(I've heard it 2 times so far) that a Muslim claimed that everything that was in the Bible. My first response in my mind was that the Muslim did not understand the important belief that Christians & Muslims believe.

Originally Posted by AhabtheArab

Ya you study the quran but i can study the bible and still hate it and use it as a disadantage as chiristians u just spew hate and propganda and take it as a main. Your worse then trash.

How hypocritical considering your previous comment in the thread.