Thread: Al-Sahab Media Presents :: An Invitation To Islam

Originally Posted by cornbiker

I guess you are.. Sorry to hear that.. you seemed like such a nice person...

Don't be sorry, I'm not.

To say that Islam should be banned form the US goes against the very tenets that led to the founding of this country.

Look at the Pilgrims, who came here searching for religious freedom, being free to worship who they want and how they want. The Constitution guarantees religious freedom. So wouldn't you say wanting to ban a religion is anti American? You do love America, right?

Originally Posted by makki

Who told you that Islam followers dislike Christians and other religions ? Before you say anything about any religion why don't you first read some staff about this religion that you are speaking about ?

Dear friend , if you read history you will find it very clearly said (even by european historists) that Islamic invadors (we name them openers) are the most kind and faithful openers in history , they didn't kill women or children , they didn't torture prisoners (like what is being done in abu guraib and all the other prisons) and the didn't at all threaten anybody to islam. Can you tell me why Christians and Jewish people are now living in Islamic countries since very long ago ? why didn't Muslims kill them ? Them and their fathers and grandfathers lived in Muslim countries with all their rights and they were even defended by Muslim armies.

But I can understand that you are talking about hostility towards Crusaders (not Christians). Yes my friend , wouldn't you hate (not even dislike) the people who are killing your friends and may be your families ? wouldn't you hate those who are occupying and stealing your country ?

I don't know if anyone likes what happened in Iraq Abu Guraib , Al mahmoudiah (raping a child and burning her with her family) , Haditha ... and sooo many other hidden facts , even you my friend should hate those people. Now if Muslims are who did that to your people would you hate them or not ?

And by the way , what you see of those disgusting actions by American (or more accurately Crusaders) is much less than what is really happening on the ground.

No one real Muslim thinks that killing people who disagree with him is OK , but all of them (Muslims) think that defending themselves and their families and their states is a must and killing those who are attacking them is very much ok.

Anyway chat to you later , but after you watch the video (if you are interested in hearing what is in this invitation)

Thank you very much

I take it that you are Muslim. Let me, first of all, assure you that I am well taught on Islam, and that I am not expressing an ignorant opinion.

I think that what we have to understand is that there are three leagues of Muslims: non-observant, observant and radical. There are proportionally very few non-observant muslims. The large majority of the ummah is observant, and then we have those who are radical.

This is the same as almost any religion, apart from you will find that there are more Christians who aren't particularly Christian and therefore find themselves in the non-observant catregory. The difference with Islam is those who take a radical approach to it are on a completely different level to radical Christians, or Jews, or Hindus (?) or any other religion.

Radical Muslims believe that an Islamic state is THE answer. There is no other solution. This is what Allah wants, what he intended, and as Muslims this is our purpose on earth. The kuffar are unbelievers. Either, they convert to Islam and become radical muslims themselves, or they die. That is as simple as it gets.

The experience that I have had of Islamist networks in Britain, predominantly the Hizb ut-Tahrir, has shown me that these people are willing to stop at nothing.

Today, i was watching the news. Eight or so Muslims have been arrested for plotting to smuggle hydrogen peroxide bombs on board seven flights leaving the UK and flying to the US. They were described as being 'indifferent' about the carnage that would ensue.

This is the side to Islam that is just so disturbing it becomes difficult to accept and embrace a religion that can produce such people.

Originally Posted by cornbiker

I guess you are.. Sorry to hear that.. you seemed like such a nice person...

He's not.......

Originally Posted by Taylor

I take it that you are Muslim. Let me, first of all, assure you that I am well taught on Islam, and that I am not expressing an ignorant opinion.

I think that what we have to understand is that there are three leagues of Muslims: non-observant, observant and radical. There are proportionally very few non-observant muslims. The large majority of the ummah is observant, and then we have those who are radical.

This is the same as almost any religion, apart from you will find that there are more Christians who aren't particularly Christian and therefore find themselves in the non-observant catregory. The difference with Islam is those who take a radical approach to it are on a completely different level to radical Christians, or Jews, or Hindus (?) or any other religion.

Radical Muslims believe that an Islamic state is THE answer. There is no other solution. This is what Allah wants, what he intended, and as Muslims this is our purpose on earth. The kuffar are unbelievers. Either, they convert to Islam and become radical muslims themselves, or they die. That is as simple as it gets.

The experience that I have had of Islamist networks in Britain, predominantly the Hizb ut-Tahrir, has shown me that these people are willing to stop at nothing.

Today, i was watching the news. Eight or so Muslims have been arrested for plotting to smuggle hydrogen peroxide bombs on board seven flights leaving the UK and flying to the US. They were described as being 'indifferent' about the carnage that would ensue.

This is the side to Islam that is just so disturbing it becomes difficult to accept and embrace a religion that can produce such people.

Unfortunately, the radicals don't consider the others real Muslims. They would rather kill them, since the Qur'an calls them "hypocrites". They are no better than the infidels.

America is a very diverse nation both in culture and religion. The vast majority of us believe in tolerance and peaceful coexistence. We do not as a whole tolerate extremists who promote hatred, intolerance, or injustice. I certainly hope this is not your agenda, because if it is you are just wasting your time.

Originally Posted by democraticus

America is a very diverse nation both in culture and religion. The vast majority of us believe in tolerance and peaceful coexistence. We do not as a whole tolerate extremists who promote hatred, intolerance, or injustice. I certainly hope this is not your agenda, because if it is you are just wasting your time.

Whose agenda are you talking about?

I can tolerate anything but crabs, ants in the catfood, people who want me dead because I'm not like them, Milwaukee's Best, shoes in the summertime, and birdshit on my car seat when I leave the sunroof open.

What else is there?

Re: Al-Sahab Media Presents :: An Invitation To Islam
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Originally Posted by democraticus
America is a very diverse nation both in culture and religion. The vast majority of us believe in tolerance and peaceful coexistence. We do not as a whole tolerate extremists who promote hatred, intolerance, or injustice. I certainly hope this is not your agenda, because if it is you are just wasting your time.

Whose agenda are you talking about?

Sorry. "Makki".

Originally Posted by Invayne

He's not.......

Indeed, I most certainly do not suffer fools.

Originally Posted by Invayne

Unfortunately, the radicals don't consider the others real Muslims. They would rather kill them, since the Qur'an calls them "hypocrites". They are no better than the infidels.

This is such a true statement. They also have the nerve to come here and tell us that we are not real Muslims because we are not Arabs. That goes against the teaching of Islam. But they don't seem to understand that what they practice has more culture in it than it does religion.

Dear Islamic Followers Who Support Terrorism,

It is true that some people in this world need to be eliminated....killed. However, I feel this is justified for ones actions and is a consequence of those actions. But to kill in the name of a higher entity is ones excuse and is more of a disrespect of ones religion.

Those members of Osama Bin Laden’s terrorism club are a perfect example. When will the followers of people like him realize just how much of a coward he is. I could be a great leader if I was ready to let hundreds of followers strap bombs to themselves to commit suicide in the name of my passion. When is he going to be so brave to drive a bomb filled truck into a building? Answer, he isn't. Because he has plenty of idiots following him. Because of this and his hate of the United States, the United States is keeping Allah happy with a steady stream of souls. This Allah is sure to be working his butt off with tons of overtime.

For all of you who read this and do not agree or think the United States is killing your people, here is a little thought to sleep on. Muslims have killed more Muslims than any Christian group ever has or ever will. You all are cowards hiding behind your women and children claiming your devotion to some Mohammad dude.

The State of Israel is constantly being attacked by so called freedom fighters. They hide like cowards in civilian populated areas and cry like women when Israel retaliates and innocent people are killed. I think Muslims hate of Israel is because every time there is a conflict, Israel kicks the crap out of Arabs.

In closing, if this should by some miracle of a chance find it’s way to Osama’s place, I extend a open invitation to come over so I can kick his butt…….American style.