Thread: Are children responsible for the failures of their fathers?

If a father murders 6 people, should we blame the children as being evil because they are the offspring of someone evil?

Originally Posted by The_Bear

If a father murders 6 people, should we blame the children as being evil because they are the offspring of someone evil?

Is there some component to the evil that is genetic?

Originally Posted by The_Bear

If a father murders 6 people, should we blame the children as being evil because they are the offspring of someone evil?

Of course not - this is an absurd question, but I'm guessing it's leading somewhere.

Originally Posted by The_Bear

If a father murders 6 people, should we blame the children as being evil because they are the offspring of someone evil?

From a legal standpoint, evil and evil's creator Satan, do not exist. Only mentally ill people and or people who've suffered permanent emotional damage from abuse, neglect, and so on, or it is taught as in a gang member recruiting his own son. Children are never responsible at any point for the abuse, neglect, and so on a parents give them 99% of the time.

The more I think about it, the more I realize how different this question's answer can be based on whether or not evil exists. which in my opinion it most definitly does not. There are organic and environmental explainations for the behavior one could categorize as evil.

Originally Posted by The_Bear

If a father murders 6 people, should we blame the children as being evil because they are the offspring of someone evil?

I know, I know!

The father is a priest, thus he has no children...

eh...the doctor is a woman?


...I give up.

I think I see where this is going, but let me rephrase the question:

If a man enters another man's house. Murders some of the family and drives the remainder out, takes all the possessions as his own, and finds and takes and uses all the families wealth in the cookie jar in the kitchen. Uses his political power to make what he did legal and pass legislation forcing the survivors to live in a small fenced off area of town and keeps them there with armed guards....

When that man's children go to good schools and wear nice suits to interviews and make good on the opportunities they had... what exactly do they legally owe the children of the Native In... I mean Palist... I mean blac.... I mean people who grew up in poverty and injustice, could not educate their children and left their descendents literally unable to function in greater society as they've never been legally allowed to be a part of it.

I'm thinking a few scholarships, welfare programs, civil rights organizations and some lip service would probably do it. The lip service is actually what they seem to want the most and what the kids of the thieves seem most reluctant to give.

If you take everyone on this board and all their property and wealth - and an equal number of Swedish reigndeer herders with nothing but the clothes the clothes on their back... and put them together for a hundred years with a legal system that forbids any of the Swedes from getting an education, owning property or marrying into our group. But allows us and our families full rights. Anything. ... Then after 4 generations suddenly make all laws equal and come back in another hundred years. What do you think would happen in a hundred years. I would guess that our descendants would be fine and theirs would be slaves.

Is that because Swedes are lazy and dumb, or because they never stood a chance and noone in their situation would have?

Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles

I think I see where this is going, but let me rephrase the question:

If a man enters another man's house. Murders some of the family and drives the remainder out, takes all the possessions as his own, and finds and takes and uses all the families wealth in the cookie jar in the kitchen. Uses his political power to make what he did legal and pass legislation forcing the survivors to live in a small fenced off area of town and keeps them there with armed guards....

When that man's children go to good schools and wear nice suits to interviews and make good on the opportunities they had... what exactly do they legally owe the children of the Native In... I mean Palist... I mean blac.... I mean people who grew up in poverty and injustice, could not educate their children and left their descendents literally unable to function in greater society as they've never been legally allowed to be a part of it.

I'm thinking a few scholarships, welfare programs, civil rights organizations and some lip service would probably do it. The lip service is actually what they seem to want the most and what the kids of the thieves seem most reluctant to give.

If you take everyone on this board and all their property and wealth - and an equal number of Swedish reigndeer herders with nothing but the clothes the clothes on their back... and put them together for a hundred years with a legal system that forbids any of the Swedes from getting an education, owning property or marrying into our group. But allows us and our families full rights. Anything. ... Then after 4 generations suddenly make all laws equal and come back in another hundred years. What do you think would happen in a hundred years. I would guess that our descendants would be fine and theirs would be slaves.

Is that because Swedes are lazy and dumb, or because they never stood a chance and noone in their situation would have?

lol you're a smart man knuckles.
So....care to state specifically what you think?

Here's an interesting question I don't know the answer to. Imagine a man steals millions and gets away with it, and the money gets passed on to his children. If the crime is discovered 30 years or so after the event, what happens to all the proceeds of his ill-gotten gains? Do his children get to keep them?

Originally Posted by Goldwater

From a legal standpoint, evil and evil's creator Satan, do not exist.

Where does the law even address evil or mandate that it only exist if a supernatural being is behind it?

You don't believe evil people exist all on their own? You don't believe some people engage in evil acts all on their own?

Originally Posted by caffeine

Here's an interesting question I don't know the answer to. Imagine a man steals millions and gets away with it, and the money gets passed on to his children. If the crime is discovered 30 years or so after the event, what happens to all the proceeds of his ill-gotten gains? Do his children get to keep them?

No that's a matter of property.