Thread: The Religion of Mosheh Thezion

OK. Now defend it.

Link:



http://empiricalchurch.org/mission/

Ha...



I cannot defend something, If I have not been attacked on it.



I suggest you read it, and try and find an argument.



It is a plurilist religious order, based fundamentally on science as a foundation for unification as science is a modern religion, as far as its belief systems go, and in doing so, we can find reason to end religious strife and bring all world religions together in a kind of peaceful co-existance, where the religions are not mixed.. or blended, but that they are simple allowed to argue it out... for the next 10 billion years.



In this way, all the world can be brought to Jesus, just as they are brought to Islam, and while they dont always agree, it doesnt matter, because it is the individuals who will make up their own mind.. as they should.. but they should have easy access to each..and choice.



Lets face facts.. our world is full of religious conflict, and religions are themselves fighting for dominance.





which one is right?

Which one is better?



I have no idea.



But I do know that they should not be fighting, as such does not serve God.



None of them can prove they are absolute truth, and all they can do, is argue about it.



I say we need a neutral playing field, for all religions to agree to disagree and be open to discuss it and argue the details instead of fighting and killing each other.







My church, is designed to embrace the whole world, as brothers, and the only way to do so, is to be brothers under god, who may not agree, but are willing to calmly discuss it.



And my personal religion, is based on science, and theory... http://empiricalchurch.org/theory/



Which is a unifying field theory, I developed myself.





-Mosheh Thezion

Ha...



I cannot defend something, If I have not been attacked on it.





I didn't I was going to attack, I just said defend it.



I suggest you read it, and try and find an argument.





I did





It is a plurilist religious order, based fundamentally on science as a foundation for unification as science is a modern religion, as far as its belief systems go, and in doing so, we can find reason to end religious strife and bring all world religions together in a kind of peaceful co-existance, where the religions are not mixed.. or blended, but that they are simple allowed to argue it out... for the next 10 billion years.



Science is considered a religion by some, but I do not agree that it is.And, after ten billion years, does the arguements end?



In this way, all the world can be brought to Jesus, just as they are brought to Islam, and while they dont always agree, it doesnt matter, because it is the individuals who will make up their own mind.. as they should.. but they should have easy access to each..and choice.



So, you don't want to blend all the religions together, you want to push your belief off on someone else.





Lets face facts.. our world is full of religious conflict, and religions are themselves fighting for dominance.



You want yours to be dominant.



which one is right?

Which one is better?



I have no idea.



I have an idea.....its not yours.



But I do know that they should not be fighting, as such does not serve God.



So let them argue it out for ten billion years. Yeah, thats really fucking healthy.



None of them can prove they are absolute truth, and all they can do, is argue about it.



So, to stop the arguements, your solution is to let people argue it out for ten billion years?



I say we need a neutral playing field, for all religions to agree to disagree and be open to discuss it and argue the details instead of fighting and killing each other.



I now have a headache.





My church, is designed to embrace the whole world, as brothers, and the only way to do so, is to be brothers under god, who may not agree, but are willing to calmly discuss it.



Thats funny! What about the sisters? I won't go to a church that leaves out the sisters!



And my personal religion, is based on science, and theory... http://empiricalchurch.org/theory/



Which is a unifying field theory, I developed myself.





Good luck with that.



-Mosheh Thezion



Kyle TheKnight

Yeah know...



I dont really see anything to defend myself from.



you started this thread to attack my views.



Well.. attack.



I'm waiting, and ready.



So far, I dont feel very worried by your effort.



And the only point worthy of addressing is the 10 billion years thing..



and no... likely.. the argument will never end.



Not unless we can find evidence for what is outside of the universe.. but what we can develop over time, is an understanding of the creation.. of the universe itself, which can provide clues as to the nature of the creator who lives outside of it.



And as such, we will have plenty to talk about for 10 billion years.. and argue about.



Unless of course, Jesus comes back, and sets up a standard.



Personally, I hope he does, and if he does, we should have his throne polished and ready.







-Mosheh Thezion

A golden toilet?

[quote name='Mr. Knight' date='01 November 2009 - 12:11 AM' timestamp='1257063088' post='49329']
A golden toilet?
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again... foolish insults, does nothing to earn you respect.



I'm still waiting for an attack worth defending myself from.



-Mosheh Thezion

OK, tell me how you think science is a religion? They are pretty much opposed to each other, you know?

[quote name='Mr. Knight' date='01 November 2009 - 12:40 AM' timestamp='1257064849' post='49352']
OK, tell me how you think science is a religion? They are pretty much opposed to each other, you know?
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science, serves to explain for the creation of the universe, and our very existance, which is something which religion typically has done.



Personally, being a lover of science, and theory, and cosmology, I have found that the evidence as derived from the sciences, does not need to be seen as contradicting most religious belief systems, especially.. Biblical Genesis..



see..... http://empiricalchurch.org/createvolutionism/



As such, we can see that creation theory, is mearly a 3000 year old version of what we now know in more detail, however, we must be able to see past 2 things.



1) the flaws in big bang theory...



and..



2) the flaws in the earth being 6000 years old.





There is nothing in the bible that says its 6000 years old, and if Moses wanted to say 6000 years he would have... he did not.



And the holes in Big bang are so huge as to make it foolish.



All of which is a long discussion, which... I happen to make simple with my little free online book.... http://empiricalchurch.org/theory/



Which again... has alot of pictures.



-Mosheh Thezion

[quote name='Mosheh Thezion' date='01 November 2009 - 03:59 AM' timestamp='1257065970' post='49362']








science, serves to explain for the creation of the universe, and our very existance, which is something which religion typically has done.



Personally, being a lover of science, and theory, and cosmology, I have found that the evidence as derived from the sciences, does not need to be seen as contradicting most religious belief systems, especially.. Biblical Genesis..



see..... http://empiricalchur...atevolutionism/



As such, we can see that creation theory, is mearly a 3000 year old version of what we now know in more detail, however, we must be able to see past 2 things.



1) the flaws in big bang theory...



and..



2) the flaws in the earth being 6000 years old.





There is nothing in the bible that says its 6000 years old, and if Moses wanted to say 6000 years he would have... he did not.



And the holes in Big bang are so huge as to make it foolish.



All of which is a long discussion, which... I happen to make simple with my little free online book.... http://empiricalchurch.org/theory/



Which again... has alot of pictures.



-Mosheh Thezion

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Well, For a book to say the earth is now 6000 years old, when this was written thousands of years ago, would be pretty asinine, would it not? I don't recall anyone saying the Bible said the earth is 6000 years old.