Thread: Hey Mike!

http://restoretheconstitution.ning.c...titution-rally



I'm just curious. They sound like your peeps.

[quote name='Blueneck' date='24 March 2010 - 12:59 PM' timestamp='1269460778' post='132438']

http://restoretheconstitution.ning.c...titution-rally



I'm just curious. They sound like your peeps.

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They are, thank you!

BTW Blue, no I ain't going, but I may suggest that our meet up group does a protest here in support.





East of CO, kiddo!!

What do you think about this guy? He's going to speak at that rally and is the self-proclaimed mastermind of the "window wars".



Mike Vanderboegh:



http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/

[quote name='Blueneck' date='24 March 2010 - 02:16 PM' timestamp='1269465399' post='132479']

What do you think about this guy? He's going to speak at that rally and is the self-proclaimed mastermind of the "window wars".



Mike Vanderboegh:



http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/

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I think he makes great points. The question that comes to mind, "what are the establishment's limits to provocateuring violence, and will that include "attacks on themselves to play the victim in this divisive legislation?" Ignore those questions is flat out ignorance.



Sounds like Beck may have one right, and if I may add, it is about freaking time.

[quote name='michaelr' date='24 March 2010 - 05:39 PM' timestamp='1269466762' post='132490']

I think he makes great points. The question that comes to mind, "what are the establishment's limits to provocateuring violence, and will that include "attacks on themselves to play the victim in this divisive legislation?" Ignore those questions is flat out ignorance.



Sounds like Beck may have one right, and if I may add, it is about freaking time.

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You think he's a fake? Because it's he who claims responsibility for rah-rahing this. And he was asked to speak at this thing so I don't think he's a plant, people in the militial movement obviously know him.



So you think Dems are doing this to themselves, and he is unwittingly taking credit for what he thinks are his own people objecting to the passage of the bill.



I'm not sure how this would work.



And, if some window was broken and evidence led to a Democrat, should we also entertain the notion that the right framed the left for framing the right?



It's confusing to me how you ever sort out this stuff in a world where you aren't able to take anyone at face value.

[quote name='Blueneck' date='24 March 2010 - 02:46 PM' timestamp='1269467217' post='132496']

You think he's a fake? Because it's he who claims responsibility for rah-rahing this. And he was asked to speak at this thing so I don't think he's a plant, people in the militial movement obviously know him.



So you think Dems are doing this to themselves, and he is unwittingly taking credit for what he thinks are his own people objecting to the passage of the bill.



I'm not sure how this would work.







It's confusing to me how you ever sort out this stuff in a world where you aren't able to take anyone at face value.

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I think it is a possibility that should not be over looked, tyrants always want support and they usually get it by becoming a victim, even if they are not. Taking credit for something that may seem right by the extreme is a free victory in his eyes. You call terror groups AQ, they soon take on the persona, even though they usually do not know who AQ is. It does them justice in their minds, and makes them powerful in the eyes of their foe. This is a very old trick.

And, if some window was broken and evidence led to a Democrat, should we also entertain the notion that the right framed the left for framing the right?

...I do not think that would be a wise move.

It's confusing to me how you ever sort out this stuff in a world where you aren't able to take anyone at face value

.... I will admit that is sucks ass, but it ain't my fault, I have seen to much of this. I have adopted a strict policy, it states "who gains, who suffers", and it is usually the ones that gain that are guilty. The right has nothing to gain over breaking windows, they are mad, but not stupid. That said, it could be some lone shit bag on the right, but not someone in a place of "influence". I would also like to remind you of Hal Turner, a FBI operative demonizing the minority on behalf of the government......and to the Turner wanna be's he is getting tossed under the bus, his identity is out, and the establishment has no further need of him!!!!

[quote name='Pragmatist' date='25 March 2010 - 03:21 AM' timestamp='1269512494' post='132648']

No question this Mike Troxel is a shit bag from the right. You are also right he certainly is not in a place of influence.

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That does not matter, what matters is, did he do anything wrong?? I guess Turner was a racist scum bag from the right....oh wait, he was an FBI agent working for uncle sam!!