More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

Robodoon · 02-22-2007, 12:17 PM

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says
By Jim Brown
AgapePress
February 22, 2007
(AgapePress) -- Illegal aliens are killing more Americans than the Iraq war, says a new report from Family Security Matters that estimates some 2,158 murders are committed every year by illegal aliens in the U.S. The group says that number is more than 15 percent of all the murders reported by the Federal Bureau of Investigation in the U.S. and about three times the representation of illegal aliens in the general population.
Mike Cutler, a former senior special agent with the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (the former INS), is a fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies and an advisor to Family Security Matters (FSM). He says the high number of Americans being killed by illegal aliens is just part of the collateral damage that comes with tolerating illegal immigration.
"The military actually called for the BORTAC team, ... the elite unit of the Border Patrol, to be detailed to Iraq to help to secure the Iraqi border," Cutler notes. "Now, if our military can understand that Iraq's security depends in measure on the ability to protect its border against insurgents and terrorists, then why isn't our country similarly protecting our own borders?" he asks.
"We are not five and a half years, nearly, after 9/11, and yet our borders remain open," the Center for Immigration Studies fellow observes. "We have National Guardsmen assigned on the border, but it turns out they are unarmed," he points out. "Their rules of engagement are very simple: if armed intruders head your way, run in the other direction."
This situation would "almost be comical if it wasn't so tragic," Cutler asserts. "If our borders are wide open, this means that drugs, criminals, and terrorists are entering our country just as easily as the dishwashers," he says.
The report from FSM estimates that the 267,000 illegal aliens currently incarcerated in the nation are responsible for nearly 1,300,000 crimes, ranging from drug arrests to rape and murder. Such statistics, Cutler contends, debunk the claim that illegal immigration is a victimless crime. "Then we even have another problem," he adds, "and that's the Visa Waiver Program."
The federal government's Visa Waiver Program enables nationals of certain countries to travel to the United States for tourism or business for stays of 90 days or less without obtaining a visa. According to the U.S. State Department website, the waiver program was established in 1986 with the objective of "eliminating unnecessary barriers to travel," stimulating America's tourism industry, and allowing the government to focus consular resources in other areas.
Cutler says the U.S. retains the Visa Waiver Program because the nation's travel, tourism, and hospitality industries want America's borders wide open. In other words, the former INS official contends, the nation's security is being compromised in the name of trade.
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Migi e! · 02-22-2007, 01:27 PM

Illegal immigrants is a sticky wickett that most politicians aren't interested in, or are interested & don't have the guts to come out either pro or con.

Think for myself · 02-22-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Robodoon

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says
By Jim Brown
AgapePress
February 22, 2007
(AgapePress) -- Illegal aliens are killing more Americans than the Iraq war, says a new report from Family Security Matters that estimates some 2,158 murders are committed every year by illegal aliens in the U.S. The group says that number is more than 15 percent of all the murders reported by the Federal Bureau of Investigation in the U.S. and about three times the representation of illegal aliens in the general population.
Mike Cutler, a former senior special agent with the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (the former INS), is a fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies and an advisor to Family Security Matters (FSM). He says the high number of Americans being killed by illegal aliens is just part of the collateral damage that comes with tolerating illegal immigration.
"The military actually called for the BORTAC team, ... the elite unit of the Border Patrol, to be detailed to Iraq to help to secure the Iraqi border," Cutler notes. "Now, if our military can understand that Iraq's security depends in measure on the ability to protect its border against insurgents and terrorists, then why isn't our country similarly protecting our own borders?" he asks.
"We are not five and a half years, nearly, after 9/11, and yet our borders remain open," the Center for Immigration Studies fellow observes. "We have National Guardsmen assigned on the border, but it turns out they are unarmed," he points out. "Their rules of engagement are very simple: if armed intruders head your way, run in the other direction."
This situation would "almost be comical if it wasn't so tragic," Cutler asserts. "If our borders are wide open, this means that drugs, criminals, and terrorists are entering our country just as easily as the dishwashers," he says.
The report from FSM estimates that the 267,000 illegal aliens currently incarcerated in the nation are responsible for nearly 1,300,000 crimes, ranging from drug arrests to rape and murder. Such statistics, Cutler contends, debunk the claim that illegal immigration is a victimless crime. "Then we even have another problem," he adds, "and that's the Visa Waiver Program."
The federal government's Visa Waiver Program enables nationals of certain countries to travel to the United States for tourism or business for stays of 90 days or less without obtaining a visa. According to the U.S. State Department website, the waiver program was established in 1986 with the objective of "eliminating unnecessary barriers to travel," stimulating America's tourism industry, and allowing the government to focus consular resources in other areas.
Cutler says the U.S. retains the Visa Waiver Program because the nation's travel, tourism, and hospitality industries want America's borders wide open. In other words, the former INS official contends, the nation's security is being compromised in the name of trade.
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For the sake of argument, let's say there are 20 million illegal immigrants in this country of 300 million people. That represents 15% of the population. Your article says that 15% of all murders are committed by illegals. Seems to me they are no more violent than Americans.

Now let's look at some more numbers. Less than .0000007% of the American population is murdered by illegals each year, yet 1% of all American soldiers stationed in Iraq are killed every year. I'll take my chances with the illegals.

Robodoon · 02-22-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Migi e!

Illegal immigrants is a sticky wickett that most politicians aren't interested in, or are interested & don't have the guts to come out either pro or con.

Well most of our leadership is bought and paid for, their globalistic in nature and the globalists want the illegals here for break down,after all our leadership working to destroy the USA now with the NAU.

Robodoon · 02-22-2007, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Think for myself

For the sake of argument, let's say there are 20 million illegal immigrants in this country of 300 million people. That represents 15% of the population. Your article says that 15% of all murders are committed by illegals. Seems to me they are no more violent than Americans.

Now let's look at some more numbers. Less than .0000007% of the American population is murdered by illegals each year, yet 1% of all American soldiers stationed in Iraq are killed every year. I'll take my chances with the illegals.

we have 30,000,000 illegals here, and they are invaders. We have a foreign standing army of 30 million in the USA.

Think for myself · 02-22-2007, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Robodoon

Well most of our leadership is bought and paid for, their globalistic in nature and the globalists want the illegals here for break down,after all our leadership working to destroy the USA now with the NAU.

Have you been busy snorting Lake County's finest meth? What are you talking about?

Think for myself · 02-22-2007, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Robodoon

we have 30,000,000 illegals here, and they are invaders. We have a foreign standing army of 30 million in the USA.

Okay, 30 million. That reduces the rate at which illegal aliens murder by 50%. It also reduces your chances of being killed by an illegal by the same percentage.

celtic pax · 02-22-2007, 03:55 PM

Heck, more Americans died on the nations highways since 2002 than have died in Iraq:

2005 - 43,443
2004 - 42,836
2003 - 43,220
2002 - 42,815

Total - 132,314

Total US service members killed in Iraq - 3147

If I were still in the military I would find it safer to be in Iraq than back home in the good old US of A.

Think for myself · 02-22-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by celtic pax

Heck, more Americans died on the nations highways since 2002 than have died in Iraq:

2005 - 43,443
2004 - 42,836
2003 - 43,220
2002 - 42,815

Total - 132,314

Total US service members killed in Iraq - 3147

If I were still in the military I would find it safer to be in Iraq than back home in the good old US of A.

The problem with your reasoning is you are not looking at rate of death, or deaths per 1000. Statistically you are safer on the highway. Of course, that wouldn't fit political stance so you make such obviously ill informed statements that you would rather be in Iraq.

Robodoon · 02-22-2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Think for myself

Have you been busy snorting Lake County's finest meth? What are you talking about?

No, I've been busy paying attention to whats going on.
The illegals are empowered by the elites via groups like the Ford Foundation.
The Ford Foundation is a white collar terrorist group, that is built to destroy the USA, or should I say merge it with communism. If you notice the illegals are also very close to the communists.via the illegal support groups.

There is a lot going on that most Americans aren't aware of, like the on going treason within our leadership.