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08-29-2008, 08:08 PM
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Re: American Farenheit 451
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Originally Posted by Davocrat
And you're the Board Champion of Hyperbolic Literary Revisionism.
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Congratulations...fourteen hours after my post you completed your thesaurus scouring....
By the way...it isn't revisionism...metaphorically speaking.... tyrannical behaviour crosses both ends of the spectrum. Take another fourteen hours and try to come up with something better...your post quality is slipping.
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08-29-2008, 09:49 PM
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#152
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Re: American Farenheit 451
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Originally Posted by conservative
Congratulations...fourteen hours after my post you completed your thesaurus scouring....
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This from Mr. I-Work-17-Hour-Days</nasal whiny voice>
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By the way...it isn't revisionism...metaphorically speaking.... tyrannical behaviour crosses both ends of the spectrum. Take another fourteen hours and try to come up with something better...your post quality is slipping.
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Yes it is revisionism. You completely misinterpreted the book in the context of this thread.
Go ahead, tell us how To Kill a Mockingbird was about the noble effort of states rights.
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08-29-2008, 10:15 PM
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#153
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Re: American Farenheit 451
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Originally Posted by conservative
And historically they have...FDR placing American citizens in concentration camps, the Kennedy's wire-tapping MLK, and now you have Obama people threatening radio stations...yes the threat is real.
Michelle Malkin � Obama threatens TV stations airing Ayers ad
I am more than happy to decry anyone who wants to question the sexual preference of Tinkie-winkie...

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And yet the right has espoused censorship, spying on Americans, and repression, CONSISTENTLY. Um, and BTW Cons, wasn't the guy who said Tinky Winky is gay also the right wing, nutjob, conservative who said that New Orleans was "asking for it" when they got clobbered by Hurricane Katrina?
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08-29-2008, 11:28 PM
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#154
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Re: American Farenheit 451
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Originally Posted by Davocrat
This from Mr. I-Work-17-Hour-Days</nasal whiny voice>
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If I were making .20 cents mark up per bag of cheetos, I'd be working 20 hour days 24/7.
Mrs. Con must be the breadwinner.
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08-30-2008, 06:03 AM
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#155
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Re: American Farenheit 451
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Originally Posted by Davocrat
This from Mr. I-Work-17-Hour-Days</nasal whiny voice>
Yes it is revisionism. You completely misinterpreted the book in the context of this thread.
Go ahead, tell us how To Kill a Mockingbird was about the noble effort of states rights.
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You Liberals are so cute when you try to maintain your little closed minds...Do you think that Bradbury would approve of tyranny so long as it was from leftists? You are making yourself look foolish trying to defend a non-issue.
Tyranny, oppression, restriction of rights and free speech are wrong no matter who does it...
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08-30-2008, 06:07 AM
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Re: American Farenheit 451
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Originally Posted by johnlocke
And yet the right has espoused censorship, spying on Americans, and repression, CONSISTENTLY. Um, and BTW Cons, wasn't the guy who said Tinky Winky is gay also the right wing, nutjob, conservative who said that New Orleans was "asking for it" when they got clobbered by Hurricane Katrina?
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John, I thought you were sharper than this....as I stated in the OP, it is wrong no matter who does it. And my sarcastic Tinkie-Winkie was a jab at the right! Not a defense of the right! God you guys are taking great pains to try to maintain some weird position that novels wrtten about totalitarian states can only be referring to right-wingers. Wake-up.
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08-30-2008, 06:08 AM
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Re: American Farenheit 451
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Originally Posted by Inkslinger
If I were making .20 cents mark up per bag of cheetos, I'd be working 20 hour days 24/7.
Mrs. Con must be the breadwinner.
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This post just shows how ignorant you are...stop while you're only slightly behind.
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08-30-2008, 09:15 AM
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Re: American Farenheit 451
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Originally Posted by conservative
John, I thought you were sharper than this....as I stated in the OP, it is wrong no matter who does it. And my sarcastic Tinkie-Winkie was a jab at the right! Not a defense of the right! God you guys are taking great pains to try to maintain some weird position that novels wrtten about totalitarian states can only be referring to right-wingers. Wake-up.
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Make two columns. Label one conservative examples of censorship and the other liberal examples of censorship and see which is longer.
...Start with HUAC, Army-McCarthy, most attempted book bannings under the "conservative" column.
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08-30-2008, 10:45 AM
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Re: American Farenheit 451
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Originally Posted by conservative
John, I thought you were sharper than this....as I stated in the OP, it is wrong no matter who does it. And my sarcastic Tinkie-Winkie was a jab at the right! Not a defense of the right! God you guys are taking great pains to try to maintain some weird position that novels wrtten about totalitarian states can only be referring to right-wingers. Wake-up.
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Actually, Cons, YOU need to wake up. It was YOUR assertion (in the OP) that Fahrenheit 451 was a proper metaphor for the "censorship" that liberals were (inevitably) going to impose on the media through the reinstatement of the fairness doctrine.
My response? It flat out isn't so. There's no basis for your OP. The fairness doctrine has NEVER been used in the manner described. Liberals are no more prone to censorship than anyone else, and are (in fact) shown to be less likely to censor something than the radical right.
I have NEVER denied that the left COULD be as bad as the right, in constraining rights under the first amendment. History, however, shows that THEY HAVE NOT BEEN the faction most likely to embraces censorship (including burning and banning books). The simple truth is this: The conservative movement (in the US) has burned and banned books much more often than the liberals (in the US). The Conservative movement (in the US) is MUCH more likely to call for banning movies they don't like (like LIfe of Brian) than the liberals are. US conservatives are much more likely to try to censor television and radio (Tinky Winky, Howard Stern, and others). SO, Cons, I call bullshit on your position.
Fahrenheit 451 is NOT an apt metaphor for the reinstatement of the fairness doctrine.
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08-30-2008, 11:04 AM
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#160
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Re: American Farenheit 451
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Originally Posted by johnlocke
Fahrenheit 451 is NOT an apt metaphor for the reinstatement of the fairness doctrine.
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And George Orwell had something to say about redefining terms to suit your political mission. Like saying the Fairness Doctrine--a policy of ensuring equal time to MINORITY and/or opposing views--is censorship.
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