melchizedek22

Why do none believers think they know so much about religion?

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Does belief equal knowledge? Not that I am aware of. is there some secret books that believer can read to gain additional knowledge that I am not privy to?

Ignore lists are for those that are wrong, know they are wrong, and prefer to keep being wrong without the nuisance of being told they are wrong.

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Helena

Hey BB, that's pretty cool. Telling us who you love and who you hate and stuff like that.

Tick

Why do you beleive nothing. God working in the Jewish nation is more than obvious. If you are a Jew, then you are favored by God! Do you not understand? I wish I were a Jew, For Gods blessings to them are numerous and best of all prescribed in scripture. Maybe you should try investigating what is good about God, instead of searching for reasons not to believe.

By nonsqtr

roobarb

The above sentence makes no sense. If as you said, the Old Testament did not use the word Jew, how would that have anything to do with the issue as to whether the concept of believing in a single God is credible or not.

More to the point you show your ignorance as to the word Jew. The word comes from the hebrew word יהודים or Yehudim which is the plural form of יהודי or Yehudi.

This is where the English word Jew comes from, this Hebrew word. The Hebrew word is simply a reference to the geographic region known in English as Judah or יהודה , Yehudah in Hebrew.

All that name does is refer to a geographic area where a tribe descended from Judah lived. As you obviously are unaware, Judaj was the fourth of twelve sons of Jacob and was the name used for one of the 12 tribes that left Egypt with Moses.

Had you bothered before you wrote your thread to try rsearch the BIble instead of assuming you understand it, you would have found out that it is in Genesis, when Judah's mother gave him his name and so where the word originates.

The name Judah is the combination of the Hebrew words for "praise" and "God".

Kings David and Solomon were said to be the descendants of Judah.

The name became used for the southern geographic district where the kingdom of Judah would have been situated. It would also have been the site for two other tribes, the members of Benjamin and Simeon.

Had you bothered tio at least make an effort to edicate yourself you would have found out after a war destroyed the northern kingdom called Israel causing 10 tribes to be exiled, the southern kingdom of Judah ended up the sole remaining Jewish state and the that is why the name y'hudi (יהודי) or in English Jew then started to be used to describe all the Jews that remained behind.

Judah is a tetragram it abbreviates the 4 letters standing for God. Judah has always been used as another way of saying Israelite.

As for your stating there is no use of the word Jew in the Old Testament you are wrong of course. All you have to do is go to Esther 8:17(2).

Now I have taken the time to provide the above knowledge because I believe the best way to deal with ignorance is to confront it head on with informtion to rebutt it. If anyone doubts what I have said, check with our Christian Bible guys on this forum like Lakeman who probably are more versed in the Bible's words then me but can back me up with their better knowledge of the Bible or anyone who is more "Jewish" then me. I do not claim to be the most religious guy. I try to read but I am by no means a Bible scholar. Just a shmuck.

That said I did notice something else that pisses me off. I do note the person who started this thread did not take to long to use the code words "Kazar Jews."

If anyone is interested the people who refer to Jews as Kazars are suprise, suprise the same people who usually can be found at Stormfront and the Aryan Brotherhood and other white supremacist web sites. Kazar Jew has become a code word to insult Jews and let other skin heads know what you are up to without looking obvious at least so I have found over the last 10 years.

So I ask the person who started this thread, what is your agenda and challenge you. Did you not come on this forum to say something deliberately inciteful to try start a thread to rationalize insulting Jews for their beliefs?

What was your point using the word Kazar Jew and why would you start your thread by making a statement that has nothing to do with your belief in God and why you would or would not believe in God but does suggest you question Judaism and its followers and do not agree with their religion.

If you don't bully for you. Many of us Judahites do not follow every word of our religion either and in that respect we are no different then modern Christians or Muslims or atheists, etc.

Regards, Judah.

roobarb

I again need to address a myth with you. Judaism and the Jewish religion does not ever say God favours us or that we are better then non Jews. It does not and never has and in fact says we are never to use our religious beliefs in any manner that would insult someone from another religion or assume we are superior to them.

The word chosen has nothing to do with believing we are superior. It simply refers to the fact we are said to have a covenant or obligation to obey God through worshipping him through a collective community and other rules. That is all chosen refers to..being told by God we must do certain things.

The distortion and continual misrepresentation of the word chosen by non Jews whether it be in a negative way to try suggest Israelis are racist and Zionism is racist or to suggest Jews think we are better then gentiles is very much one of the myths that generates anti-semitism because if people think Jews have a chip on their soldier and think they are better then anyone, then it rationalizes resenting them.

We are a collective of people no different then anyone else. Our beliefs as to what we think God told us we must do does not make us better or superior-what it does do if anything is try build a collective identity.

Where our religion is different then Christianity is we see the community or a nation or collective of Jews as the way God told us to worship him/her. Christians talk of a trilogy but the notion you need a nation to worship through is not there-a church maybe, but not a state. Sharia Law in Islam came about which does not differentiate state from Islam but not because the Koran said you must worship Allah through the state...it came about in fact for other reasons, i.e., that in Islam a non Muslim is considered not equal to a Muslim and so the state can not afford them certain rights.

roobarb

I love you too. Unless you have a beard. I have made it clear on this forum I hate anyone with a beard man or woman.

I also don't like people who smell bad.

I think people should shower and brush their teeth.

These are biases yes its true.

I would brutally impose such beliefs on people too especially if I have to ride a bus or subway with them.

roobarb

Y'all think he can explain to me why I am a Kazar while he is at it?

sky

roobarb,


You are very correct in saying that the word Jew is not used in any part of the Torah. The Hebrews were not a chosen people either, nor for that matter anyone else. The translations have been completely misinterpreted. According to the teachings, the reason that the "Jewish god" gave the laws to them was so that they would follow his laws and not follow the pagan ways , thus those who Chose to follow his laws were his people, not that he,she,it chose them. Again, my position is this, why does a God/s need to test anyones belief? Avraham was told to sacrifice his son on an alter to show his love for his god, wouldn't an all knowing god know beforehand what avraham was going to do? Think of the Adam and eve story, what did it teach anyone? that incest with their brothers and sisters was OK? What a lesson! and I could go on with many, many other teachings... I do not believe in any man made god/s because I do not worship man. The whole notion that religions are true is corrupt, and will lead to a very narrow view of life itself. That is what I believe.