The Angel Moroni - Page 3

michaelr · 08-07-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Inkslinger

If he wasn't so offensive, he'd need not have to "defend" himself. But you weren't a member here when he use to say sexist, derogatory statements about women (I'm sure Dubs & BB can remember). Besides, he's a contradiction to his faith with his flaring temper and foul mouth.
As far as your son's illness goes, I'm glad things worked out for him and I can see why you wouldn't sway from your faith after a life threatening experience like you and your son shared. The mind and spirit works in mysterious ways Michael.... you have to ask yourself if it wasn't the collective faith you shared amongst each other that saved your son's life.
Faith is unto thyself.

But Randy was unconscious at the time.

Christopher · 08-07-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelr

No in fact I find comfort in his efforts. You people give him a hard time and he continuously needs to defend himself.

I was born into the Church Inky, but there is an inspiring story that keeps me going, actually more than one but I will share this with you.

My son Randy had a problem with his lung, he had a marmalade substance growing between the pleura and the lung, it was so bad that by time we got a second opinion it had shrunk the lung to the size of a golf ball. He had surgery, we went ahead and had it done PDQ. At that time we had moved into our home where I live now. We had our records changed and they were reading our name into the record an Fast Sunday, the same day of Randy's surgery. I had called the new bishop earlier that day and had to leave a message. I told him what was happening and I would like to have a prayer to promote Randy's healing process. Well the Bishop didn't know who I was until they read us into the record. At that time he grabbed the first counselor and rushed to the hospital, right in the middle of the service. They came and anointed Randy with oil and preformed a blessing. The room became full of what can only be described as a spirit of love. I am sure some was emotion, but not all Inky.

Earlier that day the doctors told us that Randy would be on artificial breathing for about three days and they would wake him then. They said to expect him to remain hospitalized for up to three weeks.

Well the bishop and I talked for a bit to get to know each other then they left. About three hours latter the doctors with a puzzled look on their face said they were going to wake randy and they felt that he could breath on his own. They did, he did. That evening they put hi on the floor, out of ICU. Within four days they released him from the hospital.

I know why the healing process went the way it did. I will never deny my religion to anyone. I find it funny the amount of ignorance that surrounds the church.

That is a very inspiring story, Michael. Thank you for sharing this. I have also had some experiences with priesthood blessings and faith, one involving my 6 month old daughter who almost lost her life.

Christopher · 08-07-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Inkslinger

If he wasn't so offensive, he'd need not have to "defend" himself. But you weren't a member here when he use to say sexist, derogatory statements about women (I'm sure Dubs & BB can remember). Besides, he's a contradiction to his faith with his flaring temper and foul mouth.
As far as your son's illness goes, I'm glad things worked out for him and I can see why you wouldn't sway from your faith after a life threatening experience like you and your son shared. The mind and spirit works in mysterious ways Michael.... you have to ask yourself if it wasn't the collective faith you shared amongst each other that saved your son's life.
Faith is unto thyself.

I can not say I have read everything Zara-g has posted, but I do find from what I have read that there are many of his statements and language that is offensive and it does not represent the Mormon faith very well. If you take this thread, though, his initial post was trying to convey some information about Mormons. Perhaps it could be considered spamming as Zarathustra said. But if you look at the first and subsequent responses to this thread, they are inflammatory.

This is just speculation but I think it probably started with Zara-g becoming offended because of people’s misconceptions about Mormons and responding in an unkind manner. When someone says words such as “morons” instead of “Mormons” (sorry to single you out here Zarathustra, you are not the only one and you did apologize) or anything else related to Mormons it can be easy to become offended. Don’t get me wrong, this does not by any means justify his words and particularly any sexist or derogatory comments he made. I think such statements do require an apology.

I am sure you would agree that it can be very difficult to overcome the walls created once you have said some harsh words to someone. Some people are just easily offended and I would say Zara-g is one of those people; I have PM’ed him in an effort to give him advice about this in particular.

michaelr · 08-07-2008, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Christopher

That is a very inspiring story, Michael. Thank you for sharing this. I have also had some experiences with priesthood blessings and faith, one involving my 6 month old daughter who almost lost her life.

Well it reaffirmed everything that I was taught and knew already Christopher, but yes it was a miracle and truly an amazing thing to see. Tomorrow I am supposed to help the gleaners gather apples for the food bank from a local farm. The team is headed by an 89 year old lady who wears her religion on her sleeve. I swear she is the strongest person I know, physically frail yet strong in mind and soul. It will be fun and the Grand Daughter gets to help.

Zaragrunudgeyon · 08-08-2008, 01:01 AM

That was a great story Michael.

Zaragrunudgeyon · 08-08-2008, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Inkslinger

If he wasn't so offensive, he'd need not have to "defend" himself. But you weren't a member here when he use to say sexist, derogatory statements about women (I'm sure Dubs & BB can remember). Besides, he's a contradiction to his faith with his flaring temper and foul mouth.
As far as your son's illness goes, I'm glad things worked out for him and I can see why you wouldn't sway from your faith after a life threatening experience like you and your son shared. The mind and spirit works in mysterious ways Michael.... you have to ask yourself if it wasn't the collective faith you shared amongst each other that saved your son's life.
Faith is unto thyself.

Look in the mirror skippy, look in the bloody mirror. See the monster staring back at you........ you are one of the most annoying offensive nasty people I've ever met. Don't point out my faults, you are not in any position to do so.. look at your OWN,,,,, your MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY faults.

Zarathustra · 08-08-2008, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Zaragrunudgeyon

Look in the mirror skippy, look in the bloody mirror. See the monster staring back at you........ you are one of the most annoying offensive nasty people I've ever met. Don't point out my faults, you are not in any position to do so.. look at your OWN,,,,, your MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY faults.

You showed him.