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08-15-2006, 12:04 PM
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No Victory !!
No victory
In the Name of God the Most Compassionate the Most Merciful
Peace , Mercy & Blessing From Allah (SWT)to You All !!
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Had he known the results ahead of time, Nasrallah would still have chosen this war. The Israeli government would have hemmed and hawed
Israel moves towards the ceasefire beaten, in conflict, and worried. Both sides are indicating it promises to be a "Lebanese cease fire": Temporary quiet until the next round.
Maybe not even that. The UN may consider the war over, but up north it continues unabated. It is exacting, and will continue to exact, a heavy toll.
The war is not over, but the ceasefire resolution allows the infighting to begin in Israel. This time, it appears this battle will be all-out war: The government against the Israel army brass, Ehud Olmert against Amir Peretz, generals against generals, Knesset members against government ministers, the current government against the previous one.
Every one feels they have been poorly treated, everyone feels they've been betrayed, everyone is waiting for the moment Nasrallah gives them the opportunity to get it all out.
Political victory? on paper
The Security Council decision is a significant political achievement for the United States and Israel. It is infinitely better than the draft Olmert rejected at 3:00 Friday morning. Olmert and Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni believe the resolution is even better than the American-French proposal put on the table a week earlier.
On paper, it's a good agreement. In theory, it promises both the disarming of Hizbullah and its removal from the north, in addition to the release of the two kidnapped soldiers, a strong, multi-national force to deploy in Lebanon , authorized to enforce its will, and it suggests international authority over entry to Lebanon.
One would have to be an eternal optimist to believe the agreement will be enforced as written.
Show of force
The Israel army demanded 60 additional hours of full activity in Lebanon before the ceasefire agreement came into effect. It got 60 additional hours.
The goal was to capture strategic points in south Lebanon, up to the Litani River, as well as to cleanse the area of Hizbullah holdouts.
Chief of Staff Dan Halutz said that aside from the Security Concil resolution, the Israel army’s massive show of force would leave a lasting impression on Lebanon. He convinced Olmert, as well as President Bush and Kofi Annan.
Unfortunately, massive shows of force also mean losses. When weighing up the costs and benefits of this war, it is highly questionably whether this last-minute exercise will pay off. Soldiers are supposed to remain in the area two-to-three weeks, until the multi-national force arrives to bolster UNIFIL.
Hizbullah will try to attack them, as they did before Israel withdrew from the area in May, 2000. It is painful to Israel playing right into Hizbullah's hands.
Significant losses
The question about what happened to Israel during this war must be thoroughly discussed. It was a war in which Israel was hit and Lebanon was hit and Hizbullah was hit.
It is natural for Israelis to focus on our losses. These are not insignificant: Civilian life has been silenced; hundreds of thousands of Israelis have become refugees.
Perhaps worst of all: The revelation that the Israel army is incapable of living up to the aura surrounding it. It is not only incapable of beating a small guerilla organization like Hizbullah; it is incapable of providing food and water to its soldiers.
Crisis of faith
The sharp crisis of faith that has developed between the Israel army and the political echelon is reminiscent of the Yom Kippur War.
The truth must be told: We did not win this war. This can be proven by the following hypothetical question I heard yesterday from one former Israeli leader: If Nasrallah would have been asked a month ago if he would have started this war knowing it would end with his organization in the state it currently is, he would likely have answered "yes."
And what if Israeli government ministers had been asked a month ago if they would have approved this operation, knowing the war would have led to the current state of affairs? They would have hemmed and hawed and looked to move on to the next question.
Nahum Barnea
Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper , Israeli News Paper
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08-15-2006, 12:53 PM
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Allah? Explain Peace Mercy & Blessing (SWT) to you all!! if you will Omaraqa 02.
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08-15-2006, 01:18 PM
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What's to explain DD? He wishes Peace , Mercy & Blessings. Does that upset your racist agenda? ~Inkster
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08-15-2006, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Inkslinger
What's to explain DD? He wishes Peace , Mercy & Blessings. Does that upset your racist agenda? ~Inkster
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Would you care to explain what you think my agenda is? I would really like you to explain into detail for us all to see your hypothesis. |
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08-15-2006, 03:36 PM
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How can he explain your agenda? Inky is part of the vast left wing conspiracy, they dont have an agenda. Wait I take that back they do have an agenda, Blame everything thats wrong in the world on Bush. Thats all they can do.Libbies dont have a plan of there own.
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08-15-2006, 03:44 PM
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A Stand Up Bitch
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Israel moves towards the ceasefire beaten, in conflict, and worried.
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HUH?? :shock: :roll: |
A penny saved is a government oversight.
"Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing often and for the same reasons." ~ Mark Twain
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08-15-2006, 03:46 PM
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A Stand Up Bitch
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Libbies dont have a plan of there own.
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Yes they do, John Kerry said so. He has a plan and he'll tell us what it is when....hmmm.
Is it 4:20 yet? 8) |
A penny saved is a government oversight.
"Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing often and for the same reasons." ~ Mark Twain
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08-15-2006, 05:10 PM
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omaraqa_02, welcome to the board.
In this conflict, everyone says they won. At least all sides seem happy - except the more than a million who are now homeless and the families of the hundreds killed on both sides.
Everyone is declared the winner. No one is declared the winner.
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08-15-2006, 05:17 PM
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Calling someone a racist is an inappropriate post.
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08-15-2006, 05:19 PM
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IlikeGW, I don't see anyone calling anyone racist in this thread. What are you referring to?
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