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10-16-2007, 05:19 PM
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CNBC learns not to 'mess with' Ron Paul, followers
David Edwards and Muriel Kane
Published: Tuesday October 16, 2007
CNBC Washington correspondent John Harwood asked former Representative Joe Scarborough on Tuesday to tell him what Rep. Ron Paul is really like, because he's been amazed to discover lately that "if you mess with Ron Paul on television or online, you are going to feel the wrath of some serious followers."
Harwood explained that when CNBC did an online poll of who won the last GOP presidential debate on October 9, "Ron Paul dominated the debate, and some of my colleagues at CNBC thought that there was something wrong with that and they took the poll down. I want to tell you, my email box, thousands and thousands and thousands of email, like I haven't seen from any other -- you know, followers of Chris Dodd or Bill Richardson or Joe Biden."
Two days after the debate, CNBC Managing Editor Allen Wastler posted " An Open Letter to the Ron Paul Faithful" at the CNBC website, in which he accused them of having hacked the poll. Wastler wrote, "You guys are good. Real good. You are truly a force on World Wide Web and I tip my hat to you. ... You folks are obviously well-organized and feel strongly about your candidate and I can't help but admire that. But you also ruined the purpose of the poll."
However, the very next day, Harwood himself posted " My Open Letter To Ron Paul Supporters," in which he apologetically stated, "I agree with the complaints. I do not believe our poll was 'hacked.' Nor do I agree with my colleagues' decision to take it down, though I know they were acting in good faith. ... I have no reason to believe anything corrupt occurred with respect to our poll. To the contrary, I believe the results we measured showing an impressive 75% naming Paul reflect the organization and motivation of Paul's adherents. This is precisely what unscientific surveys of this kind are created to measure."
Joe Scarborough responded to Harwood's question by saying that Ron Paul has widespread appeal, with signs all over college campuses and traditional conservatives, libertarians, and even people on the far left responding positively to his positions on the war and on civil liberties. He added, though, that in the House of Representatives, "Everybody's thought that he's been crazy for a while, as far as too conservative, too libertarian. ... He's a very independent guy. He doesn't play by the rules."
You Can READ THE REST HERE. Also watch the Video. I really think Paul may take the primary's.
I have never seen anything like this in all my life.
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10-16-2007, 05:25 PM
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Re: CNBC learns not to 'mess with' Ron Paul, followers
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Originally Posted by michaelr
David Edwards and Muriel Kane
Published: Tuesday October 16, 2007
CNBC Washington correspondent John Harwood asked former Representative Joe Scarborough on Tuesday to tell him what Rep. Ron Paul is really like, because he's been amazed to discover lately that "if you mess with Ron Paul on television or online, you are going to feel the wrath of some serious followers."
Harwood explained that when CNBC did an online poll of who won the last GOP presidential debate on October 9, "Ron Paul dominated the debate, and some of my colleagues at CNBC thought that there was something wrong with that and they took the poll down. I want to tell you, my email box, thousands and thousands and thousands of email, like I haven't seen from any other -- you know, followers of Chris Dodd or Bill Richardson or Joe Biden."
Two days after the debate, CNBC Managing Editor Allen Wastler posted " An Open Letter to the Ron Paul Faithful" at the CNBC website, in which he accused them of having hacked the poll. Wastler wrote, "You guys are good. Real good. You are truly a force on World Wide Web and I tip my hat to you. ... You folks are obviously well-organized and feel strongly about your candidate and I can't help but admire that. But you also ruined the purpose of the poll."
However, the very next day, Harwood himself posted " My Open Letter To Ron Paul Supporters," in which he apologetically stated, "I agree with the complaints. I do not believe our poll was 'hacked.' Nor do I agree with my colleagues' decision to take it down, though I know they were acting in good faith. ... I have no reason to believe anything corrupt occurred with respect to our poll. To the contrary, I believe the results we measured showing an impressive 75% naming Paul reflect the organization and motivation of Paul's adherents. This is precisely what unscientific surveys of this kind are created to measure."
Joe Scarborough responded to Harwood's question by saying that Ron Paul has widespread appeal, with signs all over college campuses and traditional conservatives, libertarians, and even people on the far left responding positively to his positions on the war and on civil liberties. He added, though, that in the House of Representatives, "Everybody's thought that he's been crazy for a while, as far as too conservative, too libertarian. ... He's a very independent guy. He doesn't play by the rules."
You Can READ THE REST HERE. Also watch the Video. I really think Paul may take the primary's.
I have never seen anything like this in all my life.
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This is really exciting...
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"Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the question, 'Is it politic?' Vanity asks the question, 'Is it popular?' But, conscience asks the question, 'Is it right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but one must take it because one's conscience tells one that it is right." - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
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10-16-2007, 06:21 PM
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Re: CNBC learns not to 'mess with' Ron Paul, followers
When people are finally ready to do what is necessary to be free, nothing can stop them. Is this that time? I don't know, but it's certainly a start. We are finally seeing an alternative to the welfare/warfare parties and the message is getting out.
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10-16-2007, 06:25 PM
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Re: CNBC learns not to 'mess with' Ron Paul, followers
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Originally Posted by Libre
When people are finally ready to do what is necessary to be free, nothing can stop them. Is this that time? I don't know, but it's certainly a start. We are finally seeing an alternative to the welfare/warfare parties and the message is getting out.
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To be free? Lord. So overwrought. Though it is nice to see the system being thrown into chaos because of one man's message.
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10-16-2007, 06:33 PM
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Re: CNBC learns not to 'mess with' Ron Paul, followers
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Originally Posted by Shadowman
To be free? Lord. So overwrought. Though it is nice to see the system being thrown into chaos because of one man's message.
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Win or lose, RP's message is getting out and will only continue to grow. It may not be '08, but eventually the financial house of cards our spending addicts have built will collapse. It's sad that Americans have become so apathetic that it will probably have to get a lot worse before it gets better. By that time we may not be able to recover as the rest of the world moves past us. People forget that 200 years is nothing because we don't know our history. Too bad people will have to learn their history the hard way.
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10-16-2007, 06:50 PM
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Re: CNBC learns not to 'mess with' Ron Paul, followers
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Originally Posted by Shadowman
To be free? Lord. So overwrought. Though it is nice to see the system being thrown into chaos because of one man's message.
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Did you just learn that word today? You did didn't you, and now your out here showing it off to the masses.....cool.
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"Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the question, 'Is it politic?' Vanity asks the question, 'Is it popular?' But, conscience asks the question, 'Is it right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but one must take it because one's conscience tells one that it is right." - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
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10-16-2007, 07:00 PM
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Re: CNBC learns not to 'mess with' Ron Paul, followers
Go Ron Paul!
I believe win or lose for him, the damage is done... which is excellent.
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10-16-2007, 07:06 PM
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Re: CNBC learns not to 'mess with' Ron Paul, followers
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Originally Posted by Babylon
Did you just learn that word today? You did didn't you, and now your out here showing it off to the masses.....cool.
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My vocabulary is mighty and powerful, but sometimes I like to use a word twice in the same day.
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