Michele

When you start actually reading the links you post before posting them, Ill start commenting...hows that ?

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Colin

I think that intense border security would stem the flow of illegal immigrants to the United States, and would probably help stabilize wages for certain uneducated American workers in sectors like agriculture, low end services, construction etc.

Governmental regulation and law hinder the ability of American workers to compete directly with illegal immigrants, less intervention is necessary for a more level playing field. By that token, domestic workers need to accept a more intense marketplace as well as fewer benefits for their labor - wages and living standards have been artificially propped up in certain sectors of the economy.

The presence of unregulated illegals better reflects the conditions of the market and thus -reduces costs for businesses, lowers costs for American consumers, promotes economic growth, allows small businesses greater access to surplus labor, increases efficiency in the domestic marketplace and most importantly creates a more competitive labor market - benefiting the US economy as a whole. I'd like to see the small minority of US workers being adversely affected by the surge of illegals to see the government back off and allow them some more flexibility with their labor.

Trip

No, all I've done here is tell you that banks will send illegal immigrants (undocumented persons, if you will) to title companies to close loans with no proof of citizenship. You said I was wrong, despite my telling you that I am an escrow officer and I have been forced to turn these people away because it is against the law.

You keep saying you're doing my research, but I don't need the research..i know the law, its my job. You are the ones that are ill informed, so you need to do your own research.

First you denied banks were giving loans to people without ID or SS #'s. Proven false.

Second you denied that banks are giving credit cards or accounts to illegal persons. Again proven false.

Third, you denied the fact that escrow officers are required by law to have state issued ID or passports. I shouldn't have to prove this false...duh.

I don't know how else to put it for you. TFM has repeatedly twisted things I've said and exhibited a propensity for lack of reading comprehension, so I'll address this to you Michele: We'll just have to agree to disagree.
You may thing I'm lying, and I'm sorry you feel that way, but that's just not the case. The simple truth is that undocumented mexican citizens are coming into this country and getting accounts at banks with no state issued ID cards and no passports, as I've already shown you. These same people are getting credit cards and home loans. Someone is insuring them, without a doubt. As an escrow officer AND a notary I am required by law to ensure the identity of the person I notarize because I am responsible for saying that the person signing the document is who they say they are. Therefore it is illegal for me to notarize a signature of a person without a state ID or a passport. Clear enough?

Since that is the case, when mexican citizens with no state issued ID and no passport show up at my office, holding a mexican consular ID, or no ID at all, we send them home. Our underwriters, as well as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, will NOT insure a loan for a person without a US State ID or a Passport.

I cannot make it any f u c k i n g clearer.

PS - Michele, the only way an escrow officer would not have a notary license would be if he or she didn't deal with any recorded documents, ie, he or she had a license simply to sign title commitments. Otherwise, not having a notary would make an escrow officer's job extremely difficult.

-Right Wing Warrior!

Think for myself

A law that you have repeatedly failed to provide any other basis for other than your "wisdom". But here's what is required in California for a notary.

• California Driver License or Commercial Driver License
• ID Card - Senior Identification Card, Under 18 Identification Card, California Identification Card
• A US passport

The following types of identification are acceptable if they are current and have been issued within the last 5 years:

• Driver license or ID card issued by another state
• Mexican or Canadian driver license issued by an authorized agency.
• US Military identification card
• Foreign passport if stamped by the Immigration and naturalization service

Notary Public Service Identification Requirements in California

Funny how a SS card is not required.

You have something to say about me, say it to me.

Ignore lists are for those that are wrong, know they are wrong, and prefer to keep being wrong without the nuisance of being told they are wrong.

Michele

You still are not getting the fact that you are asking me to take your word for it, instead of providing proof. We keep providing proof to the contrar of what you say, and you can only say "Im an escrow officer so I know" . Thats NOT proof of anything you say.


No, I asked YOU to do your own research.

I never said any of that, all Ive asked is for proof of what you have said, again...all Ive gotten is "Im an escrow officer and I know"


You have twisted everything you have said, and still have not come up with any proof to your original accusations, other then "Im an excrow officer"

Apparently you cant make it clearer because you have completely contradictited yourself, even with your own links, at every step of this conversation.

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so what I said, NOT every escrow officer is a notary.....talk about twisting words.........sheeesh



Proof, other than saying your an "Escrow Officer" would be appreciated!

Trip

Again with reading comprehension.


I have, many times. Would you like me to repeat it?

National Notary Association: Mexican ID Users Face Rejection

-Right Wing Warrior!

Trip

How much more do I have to show you? I've provided links proving that banks are giving accounts to people without ID's.



Once again, I know the law, you don't. I don't need to research anything, HOWEVER, i have provided several links to back up my assertions.



No, once again, I have provided proof of banks providing accounts to illegal aliens, directly refuting your claim that ID's and SS#'s were required for checking accounts.




See above.



Thats funny, we must read them differently. I see illegal aliens getting bank accounts. What do you see?



You're arguing semantics. An escrow officer doing an escrow officer's job is a notary, unless, as is the case with a person at my job who only has an escrow license to sign title commitments.



Asked for and provided, multiple times.

-Right Wing Warrior!

Think for myself

Funny how that Mexican ID card from the consulate is not mentioned in the list of acceptable ID's. Did you have a point with this or do you simply enjoy the taste of your shoe leather?

Ignore lists are for those that are wrong, know they are wrong, and prefer to keep being wrong without the nuisance of being told they are wrong.

Think for myself

Ah, but they do have ID's. What's your point? You said that you can't legally close on their property. What does that have to do with a bank account.



Well, i hate to tell you this, but it certainly appears that you are not really familiar with the law.






I see illegal aliens buying houses and closing on them, something you said is not legally possible, based on your extensive knowledge of escrow law.

Ignore lists are for those that are wrong, know they are wrong, and prefer to keep being wrong without the nuisance of being told they are wrong.

Michele

No you didnt, you provided links on how to get ID and that Bank of America gives credit cards to established customers.

Maybe the more questionable links for right wing political sites, and the bloggy one from "Shandy" did.....but the others proved exactly the opposite of what you have said. You have proven nothing.






No, you didnt provide proof. In one of your links (the Shandy one) it even gave instructions on how to get an ID ... kinda contracicting this whole convo if you ask me.



My computer monitor where Im still reading a load of crappy lies.


Then maybe semantics is your problem, but its not mine, I read literally, I dont read into something thats not there. If you have a problem saying what you mean, thats not my problem.



Nadda, none, no proof, period