Originally Posted by Trip

I know you're confused, that much is painfully obvious, trust me.

I said its true, and it is. Hasn't yet been refuted, though I've given plenty of examples of exactly how "undocumented" (read - illegal aliens) are getting credit cards, etc..

Originally Posted by Trip

All you've done is one, accuse me of not being an escrow officer (lol) and two, talk gibberish like this post I've quoted..

Originally Posted by Trip

Notaries are required by law to verify your identification with either a state issued ID, a driver's license, or a passport. Its right in the jurat of every notarized document. Notary ledgers are court documents, and require a signature as well as a id/dl/passport number. Title companies won't insure people without proper identification. The reasons for this are quite obvious, even for someone that's lacking in the brain cell department. Banks don't like to loan money to people that title companies wont' insure, which is why Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will not insure these loans to illegal immigrants, documentation of this has already been provided for you.

Originally Posted by Trip

Which goes full circle to the whole ID thing, and we're back where we started You can knock the links I provide if you like, i just grabbed the first ones I saw when i searched...meaning...get off your ass and actually do a search and you'll find out for yourself. That blog is a lady giving her personal experience, same as I've given you.

Originally Posted by Michele

Apparently, you didnt read before you post....



And yes, and I see you conviently didnt answer the questions I posed to you. Id have thought you would have at least had comments about repealing the 14th admentment - that was an easy one.

The only thing you could up with was a rebuttle to what I wrote about Cosman.

Originally Posted by Michele

Well Dang TFM


I spent like 10 minutes trying to copy paste the website info over to here and kept getting errors from PH.


Never thought to just post the link....


Im a dolt... even Invanye agrees, bless her heart.

Originally Posted by Trip

As I said, you haven't disputed anything. I am telling you point blank that it happens..whether you choose to believe it or not is your problem, not mine. You can copy/paste BP's website until your fingers turn blue, but it doesn't change the fact that they do it, and often. I know this because I witness it first hand, as has already been explained.
Once again, this is the reason why armchair politicians are a waste of space. What you think you know so much about, you really don't know anything about. You'll argue with a person that has first hand experience. Do you think BP is going to post on the internet how they break the law?

Not a citizen? No problem. Illegal immigrants meet little resistance getting home loans

Note where it states that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae do not support these loans. Note where it also names Banco Popular as one of the primary lenders. Now that kind of refutes your little copy/pasting effort doesn't it?

Originally Posted by Zarathustra

It doesn't work like that. Are you saying that if people didn't want lower cost labor, that illegals WOULDNT come to the US? That's insane. No, they cause the labor to have low wages.

I don't want a tightly regulated economy. But borders are something else. It's a security issue.

Originally Posted by Think for myself

Who said anything about credit cards other than you? I didn't bring it up.





Gibberish? Maybe I should use phrases like (lol). Would that make me sound more credible?



So you are a notary? I don't know why you equate notary with escrow officer, unless that explains why the dry cleaners are making more than you.

Listen, all I'm asking for is for a link to a legal website telling that escrow officers need to verify the legal status of someone before they can close. Give that to me and I will publicly bow down.

By the way, of course you deleted the post in question. Unfortunately for you I quoted it before you got in trouble again.

Originally Posted by Colin

No. You misunderstand my point.

Governmental regulation/relatively isolated job market/minimum wage = artificially high wages in certain sectors of the economy.

The United States doesn't exist in an economic bubble; outside market forces still have influence. Hence illegals upon arriving circumvent US legislation/law regarding labor and are thus paid lower wages, reflective of what the free market (free of intervention) deems acceptable for their labor.

Illegals exist outside the realm of regulation, thus are a more accurate measure of market wages in the context of the greater market (I.e. the global economy) as well as what is deemed acceptable by private business in regards to employment within American territory. They exist as self interested individuals outside of the bounds of economic regulation, a true reflection of market forces regarding wages and demand for labor.

I'm not arguing whether or not this fact is good for US workers in low-end jobs in regards to wages, or in terms of employment.

What I'm arguing is that true libertarians oppose the artificially inflated wages in the United States on principal, as well as the regulations and state bodies that facilitate them. Hence true libertarians are sympathetic towards the lower cost illegal immigrants that circumvent regulation/intervention and reflect the demands of the free market.

Its quite simple, its then no wonder that libertarian think-tanks and publications like Cato or Reason remain hostile to an illegal immigration crack down and advocate among other things - a more open immigration policy, the reduction of regulations on US workers (so they can compete with illegals) as well as increased business rights in regards to standards, practices and hiring. They believe these goals to be ideologically sound, and beneficial to the US economy as a whole.

Originally Posted by Trip

TFM...are you serious? heh..i'm losing faith in our already poor and stressed education system. How old are you again?.

Originally Posted by Trip

This is all common knowledge. Escrow officers are notaries. I hope that clears it up for you. Notaries require ID by law. That's as simple as it can get. Recorded documents, such as lien documents, deeds of trust, etc, require notaries. You see where this is going? Do I need to hold your hand, or can little junior put two and two together?.

Originally Posted by Trip

You're full of shit.

Originally Posted by Trip

TFM...are you serious? heh..i'm losing faith in our already poor and stressed education system. How old are you again?

This is all common knowledge. Escrow officers are notaries. I hope that clears it up for you. Notaries require ID by law. That's as simple as it can get. Recorded documents, such as lien documents, deeds of trust, etc, require notaries. You see where this is going? Do I need to hold your hand, or can little junior put two and two together?

Btw, I didn't delete anything. If you think I deleted post where I said you're full of shit, let me fix that.

You're full of shit.