Thread: What's the Difference?

What's the difference between calling black people, Republicans, and landowners douchebags?

I'm just curious because I want to know how comments such as these are tolerated:

Originally Posted by Divine Wind

I'd be against it. In fact, I'd be so against it, I'd dig up my cache of guns and ammo, then hand them out to the other peons to stage a revolution those anti-Constitutionalist assholes and hang them upside down from their own mansions.

Originally Posted by Divine Wind

And I would do my damnedest to keep it that way no matter how many of the aristocrats we have to kill.

Originally Posted by Divine Wind

Well duh. Requirements to Vote | ICIRR

Glad to see you aren't one of those elitist aristocratic asswhipes.

Originally Posted by Divine Wind

You don't. You just take it like the bullets Constitutional freedom fighters would be giving the Hefe's. I hope they don't cry and shit their pants when we execute them. It tends to ruin my aim.

Originally Posted by Divine Wind

Awww, getting worried? This is just a hypothetical discussion about how real Americans would handle a bunch of douchebag land owners who shredded our Constitution to give themselves more power. If you don't want to read dissenting opinions, then don't.

On second thought, only warriors should be shot. Hanging traitors and letting their bodies hang to rot in the Sun as a warning to others is a better idea.

Originally Posted by Divine Wind

Where the fuck did you come up with that conclusion? Aww, I get it. You're dodging. Fine. No matter. My guns are packed in cosmoline just waiting for the revolution against aristocratic assholes who seek to usurp the rights of everyday American citizens. Have a really nice day, Mr. Hefe.

It's stereotyping in every way, and tolerating this kind of behavior allows for a double standard of respect. Nowhere in any of these arguments is there any justification made showing how they are what they're described as (or deserving punishment).

Last I checked, this isn't an explicitly American forum. To be clear, the value of this thread was not to discuss the Constitution. It was to discuss social contract theory in general.

No, I'm not asking for the thread to be shut. I just want to know the boundaries of tolerable versus intolerable behavior in this community.

Originally Posted by Daktoria

What's the difference between calling black people, Republicans, and landowners douchebags?

You postulate a future in America where only land owning aristocrats have rights and can vote and I call those people douchebags. Now you are upset? Good Lord, son. Grow a spine. What's offensive to me is someone suggesting to shred the Constitution because they don't want their common, non-land owning fellow Americans to have the right to vote. Not only is it more offensive than name-calling, if it ever came about, there would a revolution with those elitists being hung by their heels.

Originally Posted by Amit

No. They are probably not acceptable.

Did anyone tried reporting these posts ? Because unless they are reported, moderators won't know about them.....really.

In the future, members will be encouraged to report any obvious violations on the board. This helps the moderators do their job. We cannot expect the mods to scan each and every post for violations.....so, please go ahead and report these.

I'm concerned that the moderator team won't observe or acknowledge the reports.

On other forums I've been on, reports can be deleted such that they're not even on record anymore.

Can you describe the inner workings of report mechanics?

Originally Posted by Divine Wind

You postulate a future in America where only land owning aristocrats have rights and can vote and I call those people douchebags. Now you are upset? Good Lord, son. Grow a spine. What's offensive to me is someone suggesting to shred the Constitution because they don't want their common, non-land owning fellow Americans to have the right to vote. Not only is it more offensive than name-calling, if it ever came about, there would a revolution with those elitists being hung by their heels.

What's offensive to me is that rather than actually analyzing and discussing the issue, you insist on using intimidation tactics.

Originally Posted by Daktoria

What's offensive to me is that rather than actually analyzing and discussing the issue, you insist on using intimidation tactics.

Dude, that wasn't intimidation. That was a promise of exactly what would happen in America should some asshole actually make it reality. I wouldn't be alone either. About every vet I know, people who have sworn to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, would be out there fighting those douchebags too.

I don't know what country you live in and don't care. You and your countryman can set up whatever kind of dictatorship you like, but in the United States, we like our Constitutional freedoms and will fight to keep them.

Originally Posted by Divine Wind

Dude, that wasn't intimidation. That was a promise of exactly what would happen in America should some asshole actually make it reality. I wouldn't be alone either. About every vet I know, people who have sworn to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, would be out there fighting those douchebags too.

I don't know what country you live in and don't care. You and your countryman can set up whatever kind of dictatorship you like, but in the United States, we like our Constitutional freedoms and will fight to keep them.

It is intimidation. Replace any of those references with "black people", "women", "children", or any similar demographic and you'll see.

The point of the thread was to figure out how social contracts such as the Constitution derive value. You insist on taking this for granted instead of engaging the basis of the issue.

Stop leveling. I'm not going to stoop to your level and sling mud to make a point.

Originally Posted by Amit

Do you guys want this thread moved elsewhere , or closed ?

Since this is not the correct section to discuss this.

No. It's OK.

However...

...I do believe the administration of this website and the issue in the thread go hand in hand. With people who argue in the way DW argues, the only way to call them out is to make an administrative appeal to show how they're hypocrites.

For example, the domain of this website can be equated to the domain of a landowner. By disrespecting landowners, DW is likewise disrespecting the owners of this website.