Thread: Queer Science.

In 1993, studies of male siblings with maternal gay relatives (studies of females are in progress), identified an X-linked (region Xq28) chromosomal association (concordance) in homosexuals.50 The evidence from this study supports a genetic contribution to homosexuality as an X-linked trait inherited from maternal genes. While this small study has not been replicated outside the National Institutes of Health and should be taken as tentative, the study withstood critical independent scientific peer review prior to publication.51 A recent study by Canadian researchers failed to identify the same chromosomal association, although there were some significant differences in the sampling techniques and methods confounding clear cross-comparisons.52 There will likely be more ambiguity in genetic research studies as time goes on because it is still difficult to classify/define one as heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual without simply asking the research subject. And given the varying degrees of social stigma regarding such self-identification, research will remain very challenging.

In addition, anatomical brain studies suggest a physical difference between brain structures in homosexual and heterosexual identified men, particularly in the hypothalamus (although cause versus effect is unclear).53,54 Furthermore, there is evidence suggesting a concomitant role of the prenatal hormone levels (estrogens and androgens) and their concentration ratios as a factor (although not causal) in sexual orientation development.55 Many of these studies are being independently confirmed and future developments are certain to aid in our fledgling scientific understanding.

Homosexuality exists in nearly every species of observed mammals and is in all likelihood irreversibly established in humans at a very early age (probably by age five).56 How genetics and environmental factors work together in forging homosexual orientation is unclear, but a genuine homosexual orientation is not a conscious choice. Furthermore, as a phenomena, homosexual orientation is the natural state of being for a minority of human individuals. There is no evidence to suggest that homosexual orientation is caused by a history of childhood molestation or sexual trauma. Sadly, both homosexual and heterosexual individuals are at equal risk (and rate) for such tragic events.57 In addition, research has not supported the contention that upbringing creates a homosexual person. Homosexual and heterosexual (also known as straight in common idiom) people come from similar family situations. Research on families has consistently invalidated the once popular notion that castrating mothers or "detached and/or hostile fathers" are both necessary and sufficient causes of homosexuality.58
Homosexuality: Another Adventist Point of View - The Science of Homosexuality: What is Known

some people are gay,because they are!

There are many doctors and scientists who have done studies since then that show behavior can change the basic DNA and brain function as well as chemical ballances in the brain. This research is also ongoing. Some of them say that choices and behavior may actually be the CAUSE of those differences instead of the other way around, much like many behavioral addictions.

It will be interesting to see where both schools of thought end up in the testing.

Originally Posted by davideyoung

There are many doctors and scientists who have done studies since then that show behavior can change the basic DNA
and brain function as well as chemical ballances in the brain. This research is also ongoing. Some of them say that choices and behavior may actually be the CAUSE of those differences instead of the other way around, much like many behavioral addictions.

It will be interesting to see where both schools of thought end up in the testing.

The basic DNA??? are you sure about this.. as in it causes a change in the genetic code??? because Mutations are random and im almost certain they're the only things which change the order of the genetic code.. Might be possible that chemical balances decide which parts of the DNA is dormant and which is provaliant (The process by which Genes are turned on or off is chemical) But this would mean there was a gay Gene but it would only be "switched on" under certain chemical circumstances.

Yes, the research claims that the basic DNA, challenging the concept that it is actually a true genetic code, can be altered by our behavior, as well as our diet and biological chemicle ballance.

Originally Posted by davideyoung

Yes, the research claims that the basic DNA, challenging the concept that it is actually a true genetic code, can be altered by our behavior, as well as our diet and biological chemicle ballance.

Right on target. Homosexuality is attained through practice. The baby born with both sexes and the wrong choice made to 'fix' the baby with one sex is like 1 in 1 billion. Very ultra rare.

As for other behavior, that is also true. What we do and how we do it can change our genetic code, though it's really no great stretch of science to prove that. It's called adapting to our enviornment, with a little shove from evolution.

[QUOTEHomosexuality ][/QUOTE]

A choice and nothing more.

Originally Posted by freecell

[QUOTEHomosexuality ]

A choice and nothing more.[/quote]

And you know this, how?

Originally Posted by Feslin

A choice and nothing more.

And you know this, how?

Obviously because he "chose" to have sex with men! Duh!
He likes it too. That's what really scares him.

In seriousness, he hasn't a clue what he's talking about. He clearly doesn't comprehend how sex works, nor the hormonal and chemical processes that go into human attraction. If he did, he'd shut his mouth.

Originally Posted by Sparta

Homosexuality: Another Adventist Point of View - The Science of Homosexuality: What is Known

Sparta, you are taking your “Queer Science” data from a “Queer Site”. Of course it is promoting homosexuality.

There are no reliable data in this field of knowledge. In a sticky atmosphere of political correctness only suicide researcher can provide honest results. The same with racial research. (I am not talking about eager politically correct “researchers”.) But I do not know if I would like to learn such results – they could be unpleasant…