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    Suicide bombs kill 33 in Iraq, officials say

    By KIM GAMEL, Associated Press Writer Kim Gamel, Associated Press Writer – 54 mins ago

    BAGHDAD – Suicide bombers in a crowded Baghdad commercial district and Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit killed as many as 33 people Sunday as insurgents tried to turn a monthslong deadlock over forming a new Iraqi government to their advantage.

    The latest violence began when bombers drove two cars packed with nearly 180 pounds (82 kilograms) of ammonium nitrate toward the gates of the Trade Bank of Iraq building in Baghdad and detonated the explosives after striking the surrounding blast walls, said Iraqi military spokesman Maj. Gen. Qassim al-Moussawi.
    Suicide bombs kill 33 in Iraq, officials say - Yahoo! News


    Someone care to explain to me how our invading & occupying Iraq was a "success" (as the far right claims) & exactly what we (U.S.) gained that justifies the thousands of U.S. lives lost & the billions of dollars we wasted over there?
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    If I was a terrorist...I'd want to highlight and accent my terror acts. The many thousands of IEDs and suicide bombers and remote detonations and what not. And because there are absolute fools in the US and ME and Europe who will analyze a single terrorist act and define the entire war by such an event.

    Knees jerk. It's just a fact of life. We all have knees....and many of our knees often jerk and spill or overturn something that patience and knowledge would have put in perspective.

    Ever notice that Gentlemen......how many knees will just jerk right away, the slightest touch will often contact a nerve, many times the reaction isn't even voluntary, often times the right touch on the right spot and the nerve system immediately sends a message to the brain instructing a muscle and tendon reaction, it's quite amazing, quite predictable, and quite human in fact. Fascinating the human body, don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschool View Post
    If I was a terrorist...I'd want to highlight and accent my terror acts. The many thousands of IEDs and suicide bombers and remote detonations and what not. And because there are absolute fools in the US and ME and Europe who will analyze a single terrorist act and define the entire war by such an event.

    Knees jerk. It's just a fact of life. We all have knees....and many of our knees often jerk and spill or overturn something that patience and knowledge would have put in perspective.

    Ever notice that Gentlemen......how many knees will just jerk right away, the slightest touch will often contact a nerve, many times the reaction isn't even voluntary, often times the right touch on the right spot and the nerve system immediately sends a message to the brain instructing a muscle and tendon reaction, it's quite amazing, quite predictable, and quite human in fact. Fascinating the human body, don't you think?
    Sorry.....Was that an answer to my pretty simple question?
    I'll repeat it for you:
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    Someone care to explain to me how our invading & occupying Iraq was a "success" (as the far right claims) & exactly what we (U.S.) gained that justifies the thousands of U.S. lives lost & the billions of dollars we wasted over there?
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    I'm little confused. I see the tragedy of the suicide bombing where terrorists have murdered 33+ of their own countrymen, given the bombers were Iraqi. I understand the question, but I don't understand the connection. Are you saying the US is responsible for bombing or are you just using tragedy as a pretense to question American involvement in Iraq?
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    You ask the question while providing a link to a suicide bomber killing 33 people?

    Can we have some objective debate? One day, perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Wind View Post
    I'm little confused. I see the tragedy of the suicide bombing where terrorists have murdered 33+ of their own countrymen, given the bombers were Iraqi. I understand the question, but I don't understand the connection. Are you saying the US is responsible for bombing or are you just using tragedy as a pretense to question American involvement in Iraq?
    Uhhhhhhhh....let's see.....uhhhhh...........gee.........I don't know........could be A.....could be B..........uummmmmmmmmuhhhmmhhuhhhhhh:

    I say it's B...the one with the word pretense in it, I choose that. Am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Wind View Post
    I'm little confused. I see the tragedy of the suicide bombing where terrorists have murdered 33+ of their own countrymen, given the bombers were Iraqi. I understand the question, but I don't understand the connection. Are you saying the US is responsible for bombing or are you just using tragedy as a pretense to question American involvement in Iraq?
    I'm saying the far right has been touting what a success the Iraq fiasco was for this country when the real facts are that even before our troops leave that god-forsaken land, the Iraqis are still killing each other. Imagine what will happen when we actually leave? Iraq will fall right back into civil war & killing each other until the next Saddam Hussein comes alone.
    The Iraq invasion & occupation was based on lies, made this country less safe in the world & all the lives lost have been wasted.
    The only entity that gained was Exxon-Mobil, et al. (take a look at their profits since the invasion) Much Iraqi oil has simply disappeared & I think we all know who has it.

    But getting back to my question...what is the plus side of all this for the United States?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Iraq will fall right back into civil war & killing each other until the next Saddam Hussein comes alone.
    Number one, that's an outright guess. Two, what support and backing I sense for democracy and self-determination. You mean to say Iraqis can't determine their own lives and need a murderous dictator to 'control' them? Yer guessing here 505, this outcome in Iraq hasn't been decided, you have a strong self-determining and nearly autonomous Kurds in the North, you've the Anbar region that has already shown independence, but they've all seemed to carve out a government that while we cannot yet call it a succes, it's come a long long way and deserves a little credit. As well, Western Powers aren't going anywhere, we're all funneling oil out now, the revenue is certainly going to aid Iraq, this is the best and perhaps only opportunity to be a free nation.

    The Iraq invasion & occupation was based on lies, made this country less safe in the world & all the lives lost have been wasted.
    I can't see where it made this country less safe.

    And 505, your confusion on why we were attacked on 9-11 in the first place lessens your argument's ability to convince.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschool View Post
    Number one, that's an outright guess. Two, what support and backing I sense for democracy and self-determination. You mean to say Iraqis can't determine their own lives and need a murderous dictator to 'control' them? Yer guessing here 505, this outcome in Iraq hasn't been decided, you have a strong self-determining and nearly autonomous Kurds in the North, you've the Anbar region that has already shown independence, but they've all seemed to carve out a government that while we cannot yet call it a succes, it's come a long long way and deserves a little credit. As well, Western Powers aren't going anywhere, we're all funneling oil out now, the revenue is certainly going to aid Iraq, this is the best and perhaps only opportunity to be a free nation.



    I can't see where it made this country less safe.

    And 505, your confusion on why we were attacked on 9-11 in the first place lessens your argument's ability to convince.
    As usual OS...you either refuse to...or are unable to answer a simple question....What has the U.S. gained by wasting thousands of lives & billions of dollars in Iraq? (extra credit question: Was it worth it, in your opinion?)
    (I'm going to bed now...but I'll check in the morning to see if you're capable of answering a simple question)
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