Thread: Talk about your undeclared wars!

The bombings done by drones in Pakistan have tripled from what Obama was doing last year in a given weeks time. there is a war going on in Pakistan and the USA is in it. What say you Liberals about this undeclared war?



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7017929.ece



School bombing exposes Obama’s secret war inside Pakistan

THE discovery of three American soldiers among the dead in a suicide bombing at the opening of a girls’ school in the northwestern Pakistan town of Dir last week reignited the fears of many Pakistanis that Washington was set on invading their country.



Barack Obama has banned the Bush-era term “war on terror� and dithered about sending extra troops to Afghanistan, but across the border in Pakistan, the US president has dramatically stepped up the covert war against Islamic extremists.



US airstrikes in Pakistan, launched from unmanned drones, are now averaging three a week, triple the number last year. “We're quietly seeing a geographical shift,� an intelligence officer said.



For the past month drones have pounded the tribal region of North Waziristan in apparent retaliation for the murder of seven CIA officers in Afghanistan by a Jordanian suicide bomber working with the Pakistani Taliban.

The discovery of the dead US soldiers revealed that America’s shadowy war in Pakistan not only involves drones but also small cadres of special operations soldiers.



Pakistan’s foreign minister, Shah Mehmood Qureshi, insisted that US troops were in Pakistan only to provide counter-insurgency training for the Frontier Corps, a paramilitary force operating in the tribal areas.



Other sources said there were about 200 US military inside the country. “I’m not sure you could just call it training,� one official said. “They are hardly behind the wire if they are on trips to schools in Dir.�

I guess he forgot to tell us about that in his state of the union speech.

[quote name='Dr.Knuckles' date='07 February 2010 - 03:59 AM' timestamp='1265533187' post='112234']

Not much more to say. I think everyone assumed it.





Just another couple tens of millions of people that will devote their lives to getting revenge on all of us.

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I agree. We should pull all our forces out of the ME because what we are doing is wasting money (& lives) we cannot afford & is counter-productive to our long-term interests.

Pakistan is the front line in the war on terror regardless of what you call it.



I support interdiction in Pakistan.



My support for Obama's actions is conditioned on him having an arrangement with Pakistan that allows him to do this. Such an arrangement would not have to be official and if Pakistan wants to condemn the US publicly while secretly allowing the attacks, I would approve even more. Pakistan has a huge terror problem, both local and international.



That is the kind of secret war we must fight to be successful, as W said 9/20/2001.



W was right and this action is right and I am on the right...



Nyah Nyah Nyah .....

[quote name='Inkslinger' date='07 February 2010 - 07:43 AM' timestamp='1265546582' post='112278']

That's pretty obvious KM.

Only the right would fall for the whole 'war on terror' bullshit.

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Yes, but I have fallen so hard that I will even support Obama doing some things even W didn't try. I think interdiction in Pakistan is much smarter than more troops in Afghanistan.



The Nyah Nyah was based on the notion that everybody on the right will diss Obama on this...

[quote name='PoliticalHotwire' date='07 February 2010 - 07:53 AM' timestamp='1265547232' post='112282']

I just cleaned up a few posts which weren't about Pakistan.... even close for that matter



Again: a reminder that racism will not be tolerated on this board.

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???

Do you believe the term 'war on terror' is legit?

Terrorism is an ideal, not an army.

What's this have to do with racism?

[quote name='PoliticalHotwire' date='07 February 2010 - 07:53 AM' timestamp='1265547232' post='112282']

I just cleaned up a few posts which weren't about Pakistan.... even close for that matter



Again: a reminder that racism will not be tolerated on this board.

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Ah, I see you deleted my post altogether.

To KMiller: Was my post racist? I think you and I both have some respect for each other (to some extent).

My apologies if you were offended.