Thread: Is Israel using ‘thermobarbaric’ weapons?

Strange ideas those surrender monkeys have.

They don't say a thing when our enemies launch unguided rockets into the capital city of an ally of the United States, but they get all bent out of shape when the victims of those attacks retaliate with helicopter gunships, guided rocket fire, tanks, and other controlled responses.

And they never see the hypocrisy, even when it's pointed out to them in plain english.

Wait and see.

Originally Posted by Freedom for All

Besides, they're only Palestinians. They suck terrorist cock, so why should anyone care about them? I certainly don't.

Hmmm ... yes, I expect small children being murdered is a natural consequence of being so indiscriminate as to be born Palestinians, and they have no one to blame except themselves.

If it were not prohibited by the rules of this forum, I should describe you as a repugnant excuse for a human being. Of course, as it is prohibited, I shall do no such thing. :whistling:

But perhaps, in the wee small hours of the night, you might care to ponder over why anyone should hold such an opinion of you.

Oh, and to any mods who are so inclined, I shall happily wear any penalties for this post.

Originally Posted by Freedom for All

Fully automatic weapons are indiscriminate. No one's banning them.

Hand grenades are indiscriminate. No one's banning them.

A car in the hands of a woman applying eye-liner is indiscriminate. No one's banning them.

Big deal, Isreal allegedly used bombs against Palestinians. Why should anyone in the civilized world give a shit?

Oh FFN you're so big and manly with your utter apathy towards the human race, that makes me want you sooooooooooooo bad :sarcasm:

Originally Posted by Zaragrunudgeyon

But that's the point, to make the enemy be fearful so he will stop using his weapons against you. We totally demoralized japan and germany with INDISCRIMINATE bombing. IT WORKS.

So the indescriminate killing of innocent civilians is perfectly alright in your mind? Think of all the victims in Germany and Japan. Think of the horrible and pointless deaths they suffered. Think of what happened in Dresden, Hamburg, Tokyo - and of course - in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Is that not a crime against humanity? Or is it so simple, that it is the victor who dictates what is right and what is wrong, and all that is left for the vanquished is to be villified?

As for Fuel Air Bombs, the US have criticised Russia for using them in Chechnya, even though USAF bombers used them in Iraq. it is sometimes mighty strange how Democracies reason. But then again, the US is and has a history of using moralistic talk for solely its own purposes. Israel is allied with the US for religious and special intrest reasons. The same thing applies there.

Originally Posted by Ausinus

Because they are indiscriminate.

Normal bombs cause collateral damage too.

Normal bombs like any other bomb may or may not cause collateral damage. It is the intent and the use that should be scrutinized. As yet the world is apparently not done with wars. More wars will follow the skirmishes of today.

Originally Posted by Ausinus

Oh FFN you're so big and manly with your utter apathy towards the human race, that makes me want you sooooooooooooo bad :sarcasm:

Not the human race. I hold Americans in high esteem.

Originally Posted by Sir_Blakeney

So the indescriminate killing of innocent civilians is perfectly alright in your mind?....

It's not really "indiscriminate." For the most part, the only innocent civilians being killed are those that happen to be within about 100 yards of Hamas operatives and Hamas buildings.

"Indiscriminate" would be attacking a library, bombing a passenger bus, or a restaurant.

To get back on topic, is there any credible proof that Israel indeed deployed and detonated a fuel air device? I don't see any. Just supposition based on an initial observation of the deceased and not based on forensic pathology evidence.

As usual Bourne this original post comes from the Nazi hate web site and can be found at; [FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']Israel using banned weapons[/FONT]

The thing about it is, its the same Stormfront and Neonazis coming on this forum now pasting hate articles and acting as if they are factual.

Actually the above story was first created by the Iranian intelligence service and Hezbollah. They made accusations Israel wa susing phosphourous bombs delivered by artillery shells with FMU penetrators. Syrian intelligence and Hamas then rode the wave and Hamas and Hezbollah and Syrian propaganda directorates disseminate the information via the Nazi and other white supremacist web sites.

If you trace the stories they never have any source. Some claim to quote US military intelligence but of course they are simply unsubstantiated accusations adn when the posters are traced they are fictitious names and the origins of the web sites go right back to Hamas's propoganda unit or the Nazi web sites.

There is an anti-semitic professor in Belgium called Jean Abboud who is a propoganda agent for Hamas and Hezbollah who disseminates their "stories" for European web sites. He is a member of Hezbollah.

Interestingly when the alleged doctors from Lebanon and The West Bank were asked to produce the patients they claimed were burned by phosphorous and other fuel bombs the doctors did not exist nor did the patients.

It gets tiresome after awhile-this false accusation bullshit.

In fact Russia first started using the latest fuel laden bombs in Chechnya and Afghanistan and Sadam Hussein used them against Iran and Iran against Iraq during their war.

Syria has used them to attack villages where Sunni Muslims feuding with their Alawite minority regime were situated to massacre tens of thousands.

Sudan uses them in Darfur.

The US used a version in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Interesting how its suddenly only Israel using them.

Fuel laden bombs by the way are nothing new. They don't spit fuel on people. That is an idiot notion because some people do not even bother to find out what they are. Of course it refers to the payload delivery system.

What Israel has in fact used is a cluster bomb designed to do damage on an intense basis but within a specific 100 square foot radius. Its an intense percussion bomb.

]Innocent civilians actually stand more of a chance of rupturing their ear-drums then dying.

The burns are not anything sinister. When buildings blow up in an intensely heated area, there is a flash of extreme heat which melts skin. Idiots on this forum who do not understand the weapon think its fuel or chemicals. Its heat from combustion at in compacted area.

If Israel chose to use a different kind of bomb, a more conventional one, tends of thousands of Palestinians instead of 112 would have died. Its precisely to avoid wide spread death of civilians in highly congested populated areas they try confine the blast just to the last known coordinates of the launched missile.

Of course that is ignored by the same people who would like to ignore the missiles shot into Israel. The missiles shot in are of course toys to be ignored and only the Israeli response is the one to pay attention to.

The point is it is highly unfortunate any innocent citizen or civilian has to die. That is the abject horror and ultimate result of terrorism.

The focus of this original post again was one of disseminating a bullshit fabricated article to exploit terrorism to deflect from that issue-that is the only issue, terrorism and how we can stop it so people can sit and talk and not be reduced to ashes or steaming flesh on either side of the border.

Another day. Another hate site.