Thread: I'm back..

Originally Posted by Djinn

Being able to fight back against overwhelming odds requires no special skill as long as progress isn't a metric. The strategy of Hamas (and many other like-minded groups) is to leverage the lives of civilian Palestinians to their advantage. The more civilians that die, the better the public relations.

I do wish that Israel would withdraw all civilian settlements, as that contribute to the animosity, and do nothing for defense. However, I really don't think that the settlements are really the issue. If it was, we'd be more likely to see attacks launched against the settlements.

Care to speculate why this is the case? If the settlements are the crux of the problem, why are they largely ignored by the Palestinians when it comes to attacks?

There is hate on both sides. Unadulterated hate. It isn't just from the Palestinian side. And maybe because they are all dealing with this stuff in the moment. Tit for tat. That they can't even imagine a way past it. But like I said earlier. Hamas is a symptom of the issue. But the polls still show that the majorities on both side prefer peaceful co existence. And you surely know that there are religious groups in our own country who think all of this crap is Gods will. And evangelists are raising money for Israel all the time. The U.S. pours billions in to Israel. In fact they are the largest recipients of aid and weapons. With our unwavering support for Israel right or wrong they will never negotiate fairly. Why should they. With us behind them they see no need to be fair. And the Palestinians are not stupid. After watching decades of one sided support from Washington why should they feel they can be given a fair shake. We need to show them that we can be balanced. When have we ever said no to Israel? When have we ever lheld them to a requirment? When have we ever decided that we needed to sanction them for anything.
Even when we catch them spying on us what do we do. zilch

The whole area is a launching point for the destruction of Isreal and always has been. There is a sea of money in the middle east. So why don't one of the other countries set aside some land and just move those people out of there. They obviously don't want peace with their neighbor. Why?

Because the whole area is a launching point for the destruction of Isreal and always has been. That's the whole point.

Originally Posted by Theotherone

What is the reason that created Hamas and other organizations?
the reason is occupation.. end the occupation and there won't be any problem..

No you don't. That doesn't work anymore. No one buys it not even the Jew haters. Do you not get it? The above does not work anymore. Everyone knows the tune. When you mean occupation you are not being truthful. You know damn well you mean, end the existence of Israel and there won't be any problem. Say it. Stop being dishonest. Stop playing games.

Occupation? What occupation? Israel is not in Gaza. Enough with that horseshit that there would be no terrorism of Israel simply left the West Bank. Its not that and you know it.

Hamas is not about recognizing Israel if it withdraws from the West Bank and you know that.

This shit how long do you play it? Hezbollah told the entire world they only armed themselves because they were defending Israel from occupation. Israel leaves and what do they do? They attack into Israel proper.

Hamas? There charter and people are clear-they want Israel wiped out and you know it. You are Hamas are you not? Why the bullshit?

You know damn well the moment Israel left Gaza, within minutes Hamas began shooting rockets into Israel.

Enough with your bullshit. If you don't have the balls to say what you really mean then let people see you for what you are, someone playing games.

Hamas is not fighting occupation in Gaza or the West Bank and you know it.

This is about taking back all of Israel and all of Jordan. Enough with your insincere bullshit. Save it for the same idiots who come on this forum and no nothing about Israel and make idiot statements that Israel is racist because they have never been there and have no clue Muslims in Israel have more legal rights and priviliges then your Hamas gives to Muslims who do not follow its doctrine. Enough.

Like I said, before, you don't for one second, fool too many. Maybe a few but not many. Its stale.

Save it for the children you exploit and wind up.

Originally Posted by roobarb

Occupation? What occupation? Israel is not in Gaza. Enough with that horseshit that there would be no terrorism of Israel simply left the West Bank. Its not that and you know it.

Hamas is not about recognizing Israel if it withdraws from the West Bank and you know that.

Another ridiculous load of zionist warmonger propaganda. Israel has officially stolen around 30% of total palestine from the palestinians and displaced over 5 million innocent civilians in order for jews to settle there, and you think that should be recognized as legal by anyone ? Who are you fooling but yourself ?