Thread: Pakistan

Bhutto there. Musharraf declaring state of emergency.
what's up, eh?
if AQ (hidden in the hills) gets nukes it will be quite dangerous.

Originally Posted by sectionOne

Bhutto there. Musharraf declaring state of emergency.
what's up, eh?
if AQ (hidden in the hills) gets nukes it will be quite dangerous.

It's simple for Conservative/Republican/RightWingers, invade. I 'll be the one to say I saw WMDs this time......Oh Wait! They've already got them. Hell, Obama even wants to go in.

You Pro war people better enlist, they're gonna need even more of you over there now. Iraq, Iran, and Pakistan!

I just read it, the situation is very bad. The militants have taken over a number of towns and cities and are expanding their control. I read on BBC that the Pakistani Army's soldiers were captured and paraded.

That's a challenge. Despite the democratical situation and the need for democracy, I support General Musharaff for this. You do not invade a country, parade the soldiers of the country and challenge the authorities to get away with it. He needs to destroy the militant infrastructure fast.

Supreme Court judgment will stay and be given after the emergency is past.

Originally Posted by Desidude666

I support General Musharaff for this.

Everyone in the US supports Musharaff. But by support whaddya got in mind? I would guess we don't currently have the resources for armed assistance?

I communicated with a Paki dude on another board a great deal, he seemed pretty sure that Musharaff has the popular support of the middle class and any religious coup would be short lived. I guess we're gonna find out quickly huh?

I don't have any feel for the urgency of the situation in Pakistan. I'll have to Monday morning quarterback this one.

Originally Posted by Goldwater

Everyone in the US supports Musharaff. But by support whaddya got in mind? I would guess we don't currently have the resources for armed assistance?

I communicated with a Paki dude on another board a great deal, he seemed pretty sure that Musharaff has the popular support of the middle class and any religious coup would be short lived. I guess we're gonna find out quickly huh?

It's Pakistani history mate, once someone comes to power, he doesn't want to let go. Some were assasinated for this, people like Zia. I think he should let elections take their roles in the country but when it's stable. The trouble is that Pakistan doesn't have a broad middleclass, the country has a majority in the rural areas so, support for him isn't as vast as one may think it is.

Originally Posted by Desidude666

I just read it, the situation is very bad. The militants have taken over a number of towns and cities and are expanding their control. I read on BBC that the Pakistani Army's soldiers were captured and paraded.

That's a challenge. Despite the democratical situation and the need for democracy, I support General Musharaff for this. You do not invade a country, parade the soldiers of the country and challenge the authorities to get away with it. He needs to destroy the militant infrastructure fast.

Supreme Court judgment will stay and be given after the emergency is past.

democracy and Islam don't mix. never will because democracy is against the ideology of Islam. Islam isn't plural and there is no equality. very simple.

Zia was similar to the Taliban in methodology. no rights, cruel to women, no symbols of the West or outside influence. then he got blown up. things are a little more complicated now since presidents and prime ministers have so many body guards. Saddam took a great deal to infiltrate. Musharaff is protected by the ISI.

Originally Posted by sectionOne

democracy and Islam don't mix. never will because democracy is against the ideology of Islam. Islam isn't plural and there is no equality. very simple.

Zia was similar to the Taliban in methodology. no rights, cruel to women, no symbols of the West or outside influence. then he got blown up. things are a little more complicated now since presidents and prime ministers have so many body guards. Saddam took a great deal to infiltrate. Musharaff is protected by the ISI.

Not for long, it's obvious that the West is in support of his leadership. Once the trend of global terrorism is under control, they'll stop direct support, and that'd be the end of his regime.

I think there is a need for this declaration. Personally, if militants parade your soldiers on your soil as a sign of victory, that's a direct challenge to authorities. As the Head, I like his response.

Democracy can wait but he needs to flush out these fringe militants. They just need to do it, and they did.

100 of human right activist and masses are being arrested by Pakistani military and announced there an ergency but Bush has no comment on that. By Bush administrators has been announced, “It will be business as usual with Pakistan despite the declaration of emergency and a crack down on civil liberties by its military ruler Pervez Musharaf.” By the times of India (times glogbal).

Bush reassessing the relationship with Pak...
from CNN
"Over the weekend, that advocate of freedom emerged with a different world image: a military dictator willing to crush the rights of his own people. Now Bush will need to rely on the other half of his personal diplomacy formula -- dealing bluntly with those he has put faith in -- and hope it works.
By unleashing a police state on his country, Musharraf put in motion a trifecta of trouble for the Bush administration. A nuclear-armed Pakistan lurched further into instability, civil rights and parliamentary elections were shoved aside, and the credibility of a Bush-backed leader took an enormous hit."