Thread: Question About Oil,

Originally Posted by Luigi

Long term or short term? I think a rapid influx of capitol and capitolists because of new found oil are what has helped screw the Middle East up so bad, with other factors. How the money is controlled and what it is spent on is what has created the messOpotamia. Europe, Russia, and America have all had turns supporting and propping up leaders who dont build hospitols, roads, schools, things that would create a safer, more stable region, they buy yachts, landmines, and tanks.

The Middle East got along fine before oil was a valuable resources. At several points in history they boasted some of the most advanced rich cultures and powerful nations, Persians, Ottomans, Seljuk Turks, Babylonians, Byzantians, the list goes on and on.

They got along fine? You might want to check on that again.

Originally Posted by Luigi

Not ALWAYS. There is hope for change. We were much more violent in our history. There is a parallel in primates between males of a certain species being much bigger than females correlating with violence. The bigger size difference, the more violent the males are. Humans have been getting closer to womans size for a long time now. Right now men are 15% larger, and getting smaller all the time.

Recently, genetics has shed light on this subject. Besides what you learn and experience, you are a bunch of DNA. DNA makes some people lazy, stupid, fast, violent. Natural selection means certian traits advantageous to a species in a certain environment tends to survive and thus reproduce more and be more successful in the gene pool.

Since the advent of civilization, there has been less need for violent individuals as society requires more people, living closer to each other, relying on strangers for everything they need, interacting in complicated social settings. Rates of death from violence decrease dramatically as you get to modern times, even considering all the people dead this last century in two world wars and many smaller ones, plus a genocide or two.

The flip side is we now have frighteningly devastating methods of killing each other in great numbers, thanks to greater technology. Even if there were less wars, they may still be more death.

Violence, conquest, war, all these may be instinct from our much rougher past, but it is fading all the time. If we had the same DNA we did 15,000 years ago we may not be able to live for the most part in peace and harmony in very intertwined communities, more or less cooperating for a common good, unless someone decides to nuke everyone.

So how do you relate this to the ME running out of money in the next fifty years?

Originally Posted by mdmx96

So how do you relate this to the ME running out of money in the next fifty years?

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Originally Posted by Zarathustra
Khyran, there will ALWAYS be wars. Doesnt matter if there are benifits or not, they will happen. ALWAYS. So long as there are men there will be wars. It is in our nature, in our blood, in our INSTINCT to wage war.



I was replying to this statement. I dont believe we are at the pinnacle of evolution yet.

Originally Posted by mdmx96

They got along fine? You might want to check on that again.

General
Ancient to Pre-modern
Modern
Bibliographies

of the Middle East

Originally Posted by Luigi

General
Ancient to Pre-modern
Modern
Bibliographies

of the Middle East

So you think these people didn't fight amongst themselves or try to achieve greater conquests?

BTW, Albany is a great place. Are you in school there or something?

Originally Posted by mdmx96

So you think these people didn't fight amongst themselves or try to achieve greater conquests?

BTW, Albany is a great place. Are you in school there or something?

Of course they did, everybody did. There were, however, times in relatively recent history people would actually want to move there, when oil was in less demand or no demand, and they had a contestant or two in the greatest country on Earth club.


I go to school in Florida, but I used to live in New York. Albany.edu is pretty good site for a free education.

Originally Posted by mdmx96

They got along fine? You might want to check on that again.

I meant they had powerful, balanced societies, rich in culture and money. Although there were definate periods in times when they would have been thought of as thecivilized ones compared to say, Europe.