Thread: Carter: Stop favoring Fatah over Hamas

Carter: Stop favoring Fatah over Hamas | Jerusalem Post

The United States, Israel and the European Union must end their policy of favoring Fatah over Hamas, or they will doom the Palestinian people to deepening conflict between the rival movements, former US President Jimmy Carter said Tuesday. Carter, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate who was addressing a conference of Irish human rights officials, said the Bush administration's refusal to accept the 2006 election victory of Hamas was "criminal."

Carter said Hamas, besides winning a fair and democratic mandate that should have entitled it to lead the Palestinian government, had proven itself to be far more organized in its political and military showdowns with the Fatah movement of Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas.

President Carter has now OFFICIALLY lost the plot.

In my humble opinion, it's in the Palestinian peoples' best interests that Hamas is permanently kicked up the ass and into the touchline.

Hamas are a group with extremist connections, everyone KNOWS this, Hamas have shown no sign of cracking down on Islamic Jihad, which is ONE of the reasons that the money that was owed to Palestine had a block on it.

I think it's obviously very important that the West supports Fatah in their fight with Hamas.

more proficient militarily?
Thats some hard-ass real politik there from Carter...

you have to deal with the world as it is, not as you want it to be. The Palestinians voted Hamas into power, Hamas has demonstrated it can enforce the peoples mandate - time to sit at the table with these guys.
Won't happen, but failure to do so will only make matters less stable.

Originally Posted by ...of J.Temperance

President Carter has now OFFICIALLY lost the plot.

In my humble opinion, it's in the Palestinian peoples' best interests that Hamas is permanently kicked up the ass and into the touchline.

Hamas are a group with extremist connections, everyone KNOWS this, Hamas have shown no sign of cracking down on Islamic Jihad, which is ONE of the reasons that the money that was owed to Palestine had a block on it.

I think it's obviously very important that the West supports Fatah in their fight with Hamas.

What does supporting Fatah over Hamas do? The goal is not to win the hearts and minds of Fatah. The goal is to win the hearts and minds of enough palestinian people so that they will decide to end the Jihad and all those other good things.

partitioning never works. All it does is create more wars.

Originally Posted by The_Bear

What does supporting Fatah over Hamas do? The goal is not to win the hearts and minds of Fatah. The goal is to win the hearts and minds of enough palestinian people so that they will decide to end the Jihad and all those other good things.

partitioning never works. All it does is create more wars.

The goal is to win the hearts and minds of enough palestinian people so that they will decide to end the Jihad and all those other good things.

They've had next to no funds coming into Palestine since Hamas got voted in, due to the fact that Hamas couldn't be trusted NOT to allow some of those funds to make it's way to the nutjobs known as Islamic Jihad.

Now Hamas has been shown the door by President Abbas, the funds that were owed to Palestine are going to be flowing in....hopefully by having MORE funds, this will win the hearts and minds of enough Palestinian people to turn their backs on Hamas.

Hamas = poverty, having funds owed to you blocked.

Fatah = having funds owed to you come flowing into your country.

Money talks, the people go to whoever has the moneybag.

Originally Posted by ...of J.Temperance

Money talks, the people go to whoever has the moneybag.

So what about Democracy and the Elections?

Was that all horse shit?

No big deal to remove the first democratically elected government?

How do you think that is going to play out on Al Jazeera & the rest of the middle east?

Originally Posted by Latherty

more proficient militarily?
Thats some hard-ass real politik there from Carter...

you have to deal with the world as it is, not as you want it to be. The Palestinians voted Hamas into power, Hamas has demonstrated it can enforce the peoples mandate - time to sit at the table with these guys.
Won't happen, but failure to do so will only make matters less stable.

time to sit at the table with these guys.

I don't think it's that easy....this isn't a situation like in say, Northern Ireland....I mean, for starters, Hamas HAVEN'T renounced Terrorism including no condemnation of suicide attacks, nor have Hamas said that they're going to FULLY and CATEGORICALLY sever themselves from Islamic Jihad.

Originally Posted by bluesman

So what about Democracy and the Elections?

Was that all horse shit?

No big deal to remove the first democratically elected government?

How do you think that is going to play out on Al Jazeera & the rest of the middle east?

So what about Democracy and the Elections?

It was horseshit....afterall, we must NEVER forget....that Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party were DEMOCRATICALLY elected in 1933....it was only AFTER the Nazi's were democratically elected, that Germany became a Military Dictatorship.

Seems to me, that Hamas have the FULL intention of establishing a Military Dictatorship....as illustrated by their crazed and fanatical and murderous actions this past week and a bit.

Originally Posted by bluesman

Carter: Stop favoring Fatah over Hamas | Jerusalem Post

had proven itself to be far more organized in its political and military showdowns with the Fatah movement of Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas.

This is the most idiotic part of President Carter's comments....so because Hamas appear to be far more organized politically and militarily, that makes Hamas somehow A-OK?

Hamas are an extremist organization that have ties to terrorists.

I think it's always best to support whoever the Moderate party is, and in the case of Hamas and Fatah....one would have to say, that Fatah are definately the Moderates.

Originally Posted by ...of J.Temperance

It was horseshit..

So it is horseshit when George Bush talks about spreading Democracy in the Middle East?