Thread: Who is Behind Fatah al-Islam?

This is the name of the militant al-Queda-type group in the Lebanese Palestinian refugee camps.

No one seems to be able to tell who they really are:

From the Financial Times today:

Aims:
To liberate Jerusalem
to train fighters for Iraq and
prepare for jihad on a wider range of targets.

Head dude: Shaker al-Abssi:
Jordanian member of Arafat's Fatah movement, sent to Libya in 1975 to train as a pilot
became part of Fatah al-Intifada in Syria, the Syrian sponsored group that turned agaist Arafat in the 80's
In 2002 Jordan requested his arrest for plotting to kill an American diplomat
Syria arrested him in accordance with Jordanian warrant in 2002 but released him in 2005 without charge or trial.
He headed off to the Beeka Valley in early 2006 where he was met by another 40 men men from Syria Jordan and Palestine, and trained them.
Declared in early 2007 the establishment of "al Queda in the Levant", but the group's spokesman insists that while the group shares AQ's ideaology , it has no links to AQ or anyone else. In relation to Syria and other Arab governments, he said: "We consider their leaders all traitors, enemies of God, who help the Jews and the Americans"

Other Info:
The group undertook bank robberies and in pursuit of such robbers, Lebanese police discovered a stash of weapons including anti-personel missiles, explosives and night vision goggles.
The Syrian foreign minister says Fatah al Islam militants are wanted in Syria.

Theories:
Stand-Alone Group

Al Queda in Lebanon

Lebanese think the Syrians set up the group as an Al Queda look-alike as a tool to create terror in Lebanon and undermine the Lebanese government.

Syrians support Seymour Hersh's theory that the US and Saudi Arabia set it up as a Sunni counter to militant factions of (shia) Hizollah in Lebanon.

I think they're on their own, BTW- but they seem to have great links...

none of the above. but I'm impressed with your initiative.

Originally Posted by sectionOne

none of the above..

Yeah I should have put that one in- So what's your theory then?

Originally Posted by Latherty

Yeah I should have put that one in- So what's your theory then?

fatah al Islam.
translated to conquest for Islam. "expansion"
who would be interested in conquest for Islam, or global domination of Islam for humanity? ummm. probably muslims.
you want specific names and addresses? of 1.4 billion muslims?
how about.... all of the 22+ Islamic countries. start with the 2000 Saudi princes. Islamic Republic of Iran's president just announced that he wants Israel gone. again. so my answer... those guys.

fatah al Islam turns into dar ul Islam, the House of Islam as in planetary. part of a 7 stage process that is clearly documented and being carried out.
911 was stage 3. there won't be an aggressive invasion of the US until about 2013. maybe sooner but not if we can help it.

when muslims become the majority you will see changes. it's important to know there is not pluralism in Islam and the methods of taqiyya. learn now, there's not much time. if you care about the safety of yourself and your family don't be the complacent American apologist and realize these guys are serious.

its neather of those anwsers because it is 2 ggroups supported by diffrent arab or middle eastern goverments.

There are sects in Islam, Whabbi and Shias, that have extremists that are supported by Shia and Whabbi goverments that fund these terrorists. Whabbis are supported by Saudia Arabia and Shia are supported by Syria. The Shias and Whabbi sects have laws that say its okay to kill anyone aslong as there not muslim and they dont believe sunnis or the other are muslim so they go do suicide bombings on each other.

Originally Posted by AhabtheArab

its neather of those anwsers because it is 2 ggroups supported by diffrent arab or middle eastern goverments.

There are sects in Islam, Whabbi and Shias, that have extremists that are supported by Shia and Whabbi goverments that fund these terrorists. Whabbis are supported by Saudia Arabia and Shia are supported by Syria. The Shias and Whabbi sects have laws that say its okay to kill anyone aslong as there not muslim and they dont believe sunnis or the other are muslim so they go do suicide bombings on each other.

what about the muslims killing people in Thailand, Indonesia, Africa and elsewhere? this picture you paint of a small group of Whabbis and Shia just isn't accurate. sorry.

Originally Posted by sectionOne

what about the muslims killing people in Thailand, Indonesia, Africa and elsewhere? this picture you paint of a small group of Whabbis and Shia just isn't accurate. sorry.

no its the same thing muslims are fighting there because of those groups. Shias and Whabbis are not just in the middle east and arab places. Theres al quedia and those groups everywhere.

Originally Posted by AhabtheArab

no its the same thing muslims are fighting there because of those groups. Shias and Whabbis are not just in the middle east and arab places. Theres al quedia and those groups everywhere.

so the number of al qaeda followers are how much in your estimation?

Originally Posted by AhabtheArab

no its the same thing muslims are fighting there because of those groups. Shias and Whabbis are not just in the middle east and arab places. Theres al quedia and those groups everywhere.

oh and what about Ramzi Yousef... and the Muslim Brotherhood? sunnis.... huh?