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    To those of you who claim Obama is just like Bush, Obama has decided to scrap Bush's defense system which was to have had radars in the Czech Republic and missles in Poland in favor of smaller missles located elsewhere.



    The Obama administration plans to announce on Thursday that it will scrap former President George W. Bush’s planned missile defense system in Eastern Europe and instead deploy a reconfigured system aimed more at intercepting shorter-range Iranian missiles, according to people familiar with the plans.



    President Obama decided not to deploy a sophisticated radar system in the Czech Republic or 10 ground-based interceptors in Poland, as Mr. Bush had planned. Instead, the new system his administration is developing would deploy smaller SM-3 missiles, at first aboard ships and later probably either in southern Europe or Turkey, those familiar with the plans said.




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    [quote name='Bourne' date='17 September 2009 - 05:24 AM' timestamp='1253190262' post='22761']

    To those of you who claim Obama is just like Bush, Obama has decided to scrap Bush's defense system which was to have had radars in the Czech Republic and missles in Poland in favor of smaller missles located elsewhere.







    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/18/wo.../18shield.html

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    Bullshit, all he is doing is surrounding Russia whilst using Iran as a smoke screen.



    The Obama team relied heavily on research by a Stanford University physicist, Dean Wilkering, who presented the government with research this year arguing that Poland and the Czech Republic were not the most effective places to station a missile defense system against the most likely Iranian threat. Instead, he said, more optimal places to station missiles and radar systems would be in Turkey or the Balkans.
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    [quote name='michaelr' date='17 September 2009 - 08:55 AM' timestamp='1253192146' post='22765']

    Bullshit, all he is doing is surrounding Russia whilst using Iran as a smoke screen.

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    I agree Iran isn't the real problem here, what I don't understand is why we are concerned about Russia when Pakistan and N. Korea have nukes. Seems that if missile defense actually exists and works, Japan and India would be better places to put it.
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    [quote name='Blueneck' date='17 September 2009 - 06:12 AM' timestamp='1253193132' post='22771']

    I agree Iran isn't the real problem here, what I don't understand is why we are concerned about Russia when Pakistan and N. Korea have nukes. Seems that if missile defense actually exists and works, Japan and India would be better places to put it.

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    I don't see any of these countries as a major threat. To me this is all a hoax created for the benefit of the MIC. Now that said, politically speaking on a global scale, there is a rift, it has to do with who will control the global currency, you made a thread on that subject yesterday, and who will control the natural recourses. I am afraid the idiots in DC very much want a war with Russia. I believe they would rather have a proxy war, and last year they fired the first shots.



    This line is the same line Bush started....well let me rephrase that, it is the same stance that the establishment wanted, and they are very much going forward.
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    [quote name='michaelr' date='17 September 2009 - 09:21 AM' timestamp='1253193673' post='22775']

    I don't see any of these countries as a major threat. To me this is all a hoax created for the benefit of the MIC. Now that said, politically speaking on a global scale, there is a rift, it has to do with who will control the global currency, you made a thread on that subject yesterday, and who will control the natural recourses. I am afraid the idiots in DC very much want a war with Russia. I believe they would rather have a proxy war, and last year they fired the first shots.



    This line is the same line Bush started....well let me rephrase that, it is the same stance that the establishment wanted, and they are very much going forward.

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    I agree with you about the MIC, but I think if we are going to pretend there's a threat, there's more credible imaginary threats than Iran.
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    [quote name='Blueneck' date='17 September 2009 - 06:23 AM' timestamp='1253193828' post='22776']

    I agree with you about the MIC, but I think if we are going to pretend there's a threat, there's more credible imaginary threats than Iran.

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    The new sites are surrounding Russia, Turkey and the Balkans are Russia's back yard.



    Let me ask you a question, where would you put these missiles say if Israel wanted to attack Iran?? I know where I put them.
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    [quote name='michaelr' date='17 September 2009 - 09:27 AM' timestamp='1253194023' post='22777']

    The new sites are surrounding Russia, Turkey and the Balkans are Russia's back yard.



    Let me ask you a question, where would you put these missiles say if Israel wanted to attack Iran?? I know where I put them.

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    [quote name='Blueneck' date='17 September 2009 - 06:28 AM' timestamp='1253194127' post='22779']

    I think it would be cheaper to relocate Israel to Florida.

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    Well why not, it seems that we imported the Zionist to DC.
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    [quote name='michaelr' date='17 September 2009 - 07:55 AM' timestamp='1253192146' post='22765']

    Bullshit, all he is doing is surrounding Russia whilst using Iran as a smoke screen.

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    The Russians seem pleased with the change in plans.



    Andrei Nesterenko, a spokesman for the Russian Foreign Ministry, said Thursday that the ministry was aware of the reports but would await the announcement before formally commenting. But he said that if the antimissile system was indeed being scrapped, it would be a “positive sign” for Russia.
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    [quote name='Bourne' date='17 September 2009 - 07:36 AM' timestamp='1253198195' post='22801']

    The Russians seem pleased with the change in plans.

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    sure they are.......
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