it's only right that we ask everyone to pay their fair share

**nonsqtr** · 22nd February 2012 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Blackbeard

Romney Pushes Across-the-Board Tax Cuts - WSJ.com

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney called Wednesday for an across-the-board cut in individual tax rates and the elimination of the Alternative Minimum Tax.

And here is Romney offering individul tax cuts while your man suggests cutting the corporate rate when he's taking in massive corporate $'s. And you liberal demorats will of course deafen us with your silence.

That is exactly the right thing to do - lower the corporate rate, and raise the rate on the high income earning individuals.

How are you going to do a tax cut for the 1%? That doesn't make any sense at all. We need to use tax policy to correct the distortions that Bush the Idiot brought us, and we also need corporations to bring the jobs back here to the US.

**HadEnough2** · 22nd February 2012 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Blackbeard

National Taxpayers Union - Who Pays Income Taxes?

Using 2009 as an example, I like this year as it was Obama's first year in office, when "asking everyone to pay their fair share" became the feed they put down for you liberals to graze on. Let's take a look;

Top 1% paid nearly 37% of all federal income taxes.
Top 5% paid nearly 59% of all federal income taxes.
Top 10% paid nearly 71% of all federal income taxes.

The top 50% paid nearly 98% of all federal income taxes.

Nearly 50% of income earners.....paid any tax at all.

And we're "asking" for more fairness? I would seriously like one of you from the Left side of the ledger to tell me how this pie should be divided more fairly, assign numbers to the top 1, 10, and 50% of federal taxes, show us all what is really more fair.

Your thread does say everyone should pay their fair share. I guess that means on an individual basis not as group, right?

**HadEnough2** · 22nd February 2012 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by nonsqtr

That is exactly the right thing to do - lower the corporate rate, and raise the rate on the high income earning individuals.

How are you going to do a tax cut for the 1%? That doesn't make any sense at all. We need to use tax policy to correct the distortions that Bush the Idiot brought us, and we also need corporations to bring the jobs back here to the US.

That's why Obama's proposal is genius. How can the Republicans argue against it. If they do their hypocrites. Lower tax rates for corporations that bring manufacturing jobs back home and higher tax rates for corporations that manufacture overseas. I like it.

**carpe diem** · 22nd February 2012 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by Chief

I guess you think that this time they'll do what they promised right?

You really believe them?

Need a bridge?

If we just keep allowing them to raise taxes...we are just allowing them to repeat the same behaviors...

We the people need to expect more, and there is no way libs are ever going to do that...It'lll be tough enough to get conservatives to do it.

**Chief** · 23rd February 2012 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by carpe diem

If we just keep allowing them to raise taxes...we are just allowing them to repeat the same behaviors...

We the people need to expect more, and there is no way libs are ever going to do that...It'lll be tough enough to get conservatives to do it.

What we need is to stop borrowing. That's the stealth spending that people at large get to pretend they don't see. If you really want to see spending cuts, you need the people to start paying for these services out of their cash instead of their "credit card". You can pretend like liberals are the only ones who spend, but anyone who's been paying attention these last thirty years know better.

**Blackbeard** · 23rd February 2012 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by nonsqtr

That is exactly the right thing to do - lower the corporate rate, and raise the rate on the high income earning individuals.

Those high income earners often small business owners, non. Filing individually or Sub s status. That argument from you promotes a tax revenue focus and increase on small business while giving corporate giants a tax cut. Raise the tax on Nonsqtr Ford Lincoln Dealership but give a huge tax cut to Ford Inc is what you're suggesting?

How are you going to do a tax cut for the 1%? That doesn't make any sense at all. We need to use tax policy to correct the distortions that Bush the Idiot brought us, and we also need corporations to bring the jobs back here to the US.

How am I going to "do a tax cut?" Yo...uh....non..........we already did a tax cut, the "way you do it" is simply leave what are known as the "Bush tax cuts" in place.

**Blackbeard** · 23rd February 2012 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by HadEnough2

Your thread does say everyone should pay their fair share. I guess that means on an individual basis not as group, right?

The thread starter used Obama and Democrat rhetoric, HE2, surely you see that? When Obama and you Liberals spout off that there are some who don't pay their fair share, I often hear the "1%" figure used. I thought that I'd list the last number of years...including Clinton's last two years...and ask those who are making the "it is only right we should "ask" everyone pay their fair share" what would be a fair share. Looking at current tax structure as my thread starter does, the top 1% already pay a massively disproportional amount of federal receipts. Obviously, there are those who believe this isn't enough, I'm simply asking what you Leftists would consider a "fair share." Would you like to contribute to the conversation?

**Koios** · 23rd February 2012 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by Blackbeard

Romney Pushes Across-the-Board Tax Cuts - WSJ.com

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney called Wednesday for an across-the-board cut in individual tax rates and the elimination of the Alternative Minimum Tax.

And here is Romney offering individul tax cuts while your man suggests cutting the corporate rate when he's taking in massive corporate $'s. And you liberal demorats will of course deafen us with your silence.

I think I spoke to that: Obama appeasing ya'll and not we Liberal Democrats. In fact, that's exactly what you quoted, but didn't respond to, essentially.

So the silence, deafening or otherwise, thus far is coming from you, BB.

**splansing** · 23rd February 2012 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by mtm1963

doesn't the 90% that paid 29% of the taxes receive most of the benefit from government spending excluding SS and medicare?

Maybe if the 0.1% wasn't stealing the GDP hand over fist through a rigged tax structure and shenanigans like high frequency trading, which creates zero value, that 90% wouldn't find the nation's money in such short supply to begin with, more readily being circulated, and they wouldn't need to thank the plutocrats who stole everything for taking such good care of them...because they'd be earning a decent wage and managing their affairs better on their own.

**splansing** · 23rd February 2012 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by nonsqtr

How are you going to do a tax cut for the 1%? That doesn't make any sense at all. We need to use tax policy to correct the distortions that Bush the Idiot brought us, and we also need corporations to bring the jobs back here to the US.

To be fair, the imbalances in our economy aren't the work of Dubya alone, by any means. The top tax rate was slashed in 1980. The regulations that prevented the full scale destruction of our systems weren't fully demolished until the Clinton administration. And on Obama's watch we have funneled untold billions into the hands of the people who crashed our economy, which could have gone towards paying down principle on loans that were fraudulent from the start, but was instead used to pay enormous salaries and write bonus checks and create a cushy bottom line to generate stock gains and dividends from.

Just sayin. Dubya gets the blame for his part. But not for everythng.