Thread: Coincidence? I think not!

Bill o reilly took a trip to guantanamo and three hours after he left three prisoners commit suicide. Im suprised they made it so long! :lol:



(stole from the daily show)

Oh now that is really sick and I'm sorry those prisoners died, but it kinda makes you wonder doesn't it? Bill O'Reilly IS scary! Gods, that's sick but I have to admit it's funny. You're a mess, Fishmint. LOL!!
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Pookie

The fact is that for years there have been mock suicides. They hang themselves and make the guards run around and save them. I guess the guards didn't make it there in time. Oh well.

Yeah sure they do it to fuck with the guards! maybe one of the guards was too busy torturing someone else to run fast enough, or maybe simply drinking a coffe!

Marines aren't spending their free time in Guantanamo torturing people. If there are a few sickos embedded in the bunch that have snapped under the pressure and done things that are despicable, they should be hauled off and dealt with as individuals. I think the government could have handled the situation better by more aggressively prosecuting offenders. If you didn't know your immediate subordinates were acting like this, you should have. It's called command. And if you can't handle it, then at the very least you should be demoted to some rank whose responsibilities you can handle. At most, you should be held responsible for the things that happen on your watch.

But surely we all understand that Marines are Americans with good intentions and enough backbone to try to go out into the world and put them into action. They are not the worst of us. In many cases, they are the best of us. It strikes me as unconscionable to me to even joke about stereotyping them as torturers, considering the sacrifices they make every day.

maybe one of the guards was too busy torturing someone else to run fast enough

Tell me how we torture them. Sleep deprivation? Force feeding? What?[/quote]

Tell me how we torture them. Sleep deprivation? Force feeding? What?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1771687.stm

The US Government has released photographs of the Taleban and al-Qaeda suspects held at its prison camp in Cuba which show them being subjected to sensory deprivation.
The prisoners are shown kneeling down, wearing goggles, ear muffs, surgical masks and heavy gloves.

The chief medical officer of the human rights group, Amnesty International, Jim West, said the photographs were reminiscent of torture methods used in eastern Europe in the 1970s.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in691602.shtml

The story that Sgt. Erik Saar, a soldier who spent three months in the interrogation rooms at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, tells Correspondent Scott Pelley paints a picture of bizarre, even sadistic, treatment of detainees in the American prison camp.

http://www.wn.com/p/31/0eff88496df24...2ec4a45dc4546d

Conditions diminish at Gitmo
The apparent suicides of three detainees last week at the U.S. prison complex at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, has brought renewed pressure to shut down the prison complex. | We agree - Gitmo has done more to damage the prestige of the United States than a phalanx of enemy propagandists could ever hope to accomplish.

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=9010

A suspect held in Guantanamo Bay was stripped, forced to bark like a dog, and subjected to music, it emerged as debate intensified in the U.S. capital over the future of the detention camp in Cuba.

This one comes with excellent pictures as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantan...etainment_camp

Detainees are kept in isolation most of the day, are blindfolded when moving into Camp Delta and from place to place within the camp, and forbidden to talk in groups of more than three. American doctrine in dealing with prisoners of war state that isolation and silence are effective means in breaking down the will to resist interrogation. There have been allegations of torture, including sleep deprivation, the use of so-called truth drugs, beatings, locking in confined and cold cells, and being forced to maintain uncomfortable postures.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in703639.shtml

U.N. human rights experts seeking to visit the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay said Thursday they have reliable accounts that suspected terror detainees being held there have been tortured.

The four independent experts said the United States had not responded to their numerous requests to check on the conditions of terror suspects at the U.S. Naval base in Cuba, as well as U.S. facilities in Iraq, Afghanistan and other places of detention.

They said their request for a visit was "based on information, from reliable sources, of serious allegations of torture, cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment of detainees, arbitrary detention, violations of their right to health and their due process rights."

Of course there are many other articles based on evidence of the use of whips and gags but I think you get the point.

Most of what you posted is all psychological. So we cut off their senses, so what? Who cares that we embarrass them? "Strip them and make them bark like dogs." (sounds like some of the things I do with my girl... j/k) And please, give me the articles with the whipping such. Do we go so far to cut up our POW's alive and saw their heads off, then desecrating their bodies?

P.S.

I don't trust AlJazeera.

Who cares that we embarrass them? "Strip them and make them bark like dogs.

You talk like the so-called "Them". ~Inky

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5503773

This is more than psychological torture. Being in contact with and smeared with what is believed to be (but wasn't) menstrual blood and unclean to Muslims, to the point where the men cannot pray and even get a little comfort from that is beyond psychological torture. It shows our contempt for their beliefs and worse. If you had something you held dear to you and it is desecrated, abused, ridiculed, and taken from you, I think you'd feel the same way.
And these people were innocent. Listen to the interview if you have time, okay? I heard this tonight on the radio and just wanted to put another view on this in here.
Purrs,
Pookie