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    Please Support Our Troops!


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    Wow

    What an un-biased source of Information!!!! Great research! ~Inky

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    Whether it's biased or not, the fact is, they are over there doing their duty as they promised to do. I support them because they are following their orders and doing what we expect them to do. Perhaps if this war was justified they would have more support.
    As for me, I don't agree with the Iraq war at all. But I pray like mad for their safety over there and I ask that they be blessed for doing what they consider their duty.
    Damn right I support them....and the families left here. We have a fund we take up once a month for the soldiers' families in a local reserve unit here -- those guys are over in Iraq, second tour for most -- and we collect money, clothes, toys, household stuff, etc. to help the families. I played animal shuttle last week and took 19 different cats and dogs to the shot clinic (rabies shots for $3!!) and we help in other ways. They need this, they need the help, even if it's just someone there to hold a young wife's hand and let her cry.
    LOL and this from a liberal, but I swear, the truth.
    Universe bless them all.
    Purrs,
    Pookie

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    Good for you

    My mother does the same with her local Moose Lodge...they send phone cards to Iraq so soldiers can keep in touch with family. She's not fond of Bush though... ~Inky

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    Support the troops.

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    Meaningless

    We all know the problem here. If the President abuses his authority as Commander In Chief to start a war that makes no sense, and his justifications are proven to be total lies one after the other, until the justification has become so vague that it is "Anything I do with the American military amounts to spreading freedom and fighting terrorism," how do you express your displeasure with the President without somehow undermining the morale of the troops who are trying to do an incredibly difficult job?

    I realize that some people think there is no grey area here, and that the morale of those troops is too important, and that we should sort out the politics of the situation later. But a lot of Vietnam Vets came back from that war telling us that many of them came to the same conclusions a lot of people back here had reached: that the war was wrong and senseless and that we had no business being there. No matter what people were saying back here, soldiers aren't just mindless idiots who believe whatever us civilians are telling them.

    My cousin was deeply indoctrinated into the Iraq-As-Fight-Against-Terrorism lie, until he spent a few months dodging mortars and bullets and watching his friends get blown up in random, continuous attacks on his positions. He knew some people here disagreed with the war, but he was convinced of its rightness. After rubbing elbows with Iraqis and seeing what is going on over there firsthand, he isn't exactly the spokesperson for republican warmongering propaganda that he used to be, to put it mildly.

    It wasn't somebody over here that killed his morale, no matter how much the pseudo-conservative know-it-all blowhards would like to blame some liberal for everything and anything. Anything but accept that the war is unjustifiable and unsustainable, and was a mistake in the first place. No, that can't be it. Let's find someone to blame for ruining a perfectly good war.

    The truth is that the reality of killing and dying is enough to snap people out of the blind obedience they went in with, and to bring them back to earth, where it is abundantly clear to any sane person that it is better to live than to die, better not to kill than to kill, no matter what some arrogant asshole ultra-rich drunken party boy president keeps hammering into the camera. And if you are going to face death and you are going to blow somebody's face off, you have to know in your heart that the alternative is far worse, and that you have no choice but to fight. Seeing how Iraq is crumbling and how thousands more people have been tortured and killed in the last few years than during all of Saddam's rule and how so many people there are violently opposed to any sort of western-style government or assistance and how the entire region is more like 3 separate countries than the one that the Brits manufactured after WWI... It's enough to make you wonder whether it was worth watching your buddy's arm get blown off and bleed out all over you, maybe, could be, don't you think? It's enough to make you wonder whether supporting our troops means always agreeing with every conflict some jerkoff president starts for his own economic and political gain, or whether it means getting them out of there relatively quickly, and working very hard to make sure that no jerkoff president has the authority to send the best of us off to die for his own economic and political gain in the future.

    How do you say you completely disagree with the war in Iraq without somebody getting in your face and telling you you have to support our troops? Obviously they mean that you have to pretend you're thrilled our people are fighting in Iraq. That is really the debate here, not whether we should support our troops. How do you support our troops? Lie to them and continuously preach that the cause is noble and good, even when it isn't? Or fight to change the rules so that they only end up killing and dying when the cause is noble and good? Personally, I'd rather not have them off fighting over nothing, than pretending that they're not fighting over nothing.

    Like he said, you can believe what you want, but that doesn't change what is really going on. And pretending that it's a great thing that Georgie invaded Iraq doesn't make it so. It just makes us spineless lemmings who are too lazy or too afraid to take responsibility for our own government, which is a responsibility our ancestors killed and died to deliver to us.

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    Support the troops. Please.
    If you wanto to hate Bush, our senators and our representatives, fine. They strated teh war, every one of them. Let it eat you up until you stroke out. I don't care but support our troops.

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    The bast way to support the troops is to impeach the war criminal President who invaded a country with no cause and our troops are dieing for nothing,we can't change Iraq if we stay there a thousand years

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    There is just so much optimism on this site. I'm inspired.

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    splansing, congress approved the war effort, so support the damn troops. the last thing we need is another lost generation


 
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