Thread: Patients in the U.K. dying prematurely under NHS

Patients in the U.K are being made to die prematurely. I think this is what people fear will be the eventual outcome of Government controlled Health Care.

This IS the type of system Obama openly supports.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...n-the-NHS.html

I wonder how many people die in the US because they can't afford treatment.

[quote name='Six' date='03 September 2009 - 01:26 AM' timestamp='1251933993' post='15798']This IS the type of system Obama openly supports.[/quote]



When? And don't say any public option means a system like the NHS - the NHS is very different to most healthcare systems, and I've heard no proposals from the States that sound anything like it.

[quote name='caffeine' date='03 September 2009 - 04:52 AM' timestamp='1251967974' post='15956']

When? And don't say any public option means a system like the NHS - the NHS is very different to most healthcare systems, and I've heard no proposals from the States that sound anything like it.

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Yep. Just more fear-mongering from "the right".



Some of these clowns don't understand, that stuff doesn't wash anymore. It just... doesn't!



We have some VERY strange people over here, some of us are truly myopic. On the other hand it's also what gives us focus when the chips are down.



Trouble now is, there's a new element in the mix.



And, the problem with both parties is.... they love their party!



They're both being bamboozled, I think. And, um... how to say this... I don't have a high degree of confidence in these oligarchy clowns. I'm not "entirely comfortable" with them running the world, know what I'm sayin'?



And they take a very different view towards Human Rights as well, it seems - a long-term view, it seems, that doesn't dovetail very well with an individual's real-time Rights.



Oh well, things'll get worse if we keep goin' the way we're goin', and pretty soon it'll be kinda hard to deny...

[quote name='nonsqtr' date='03 September 2009 - 05:02 AM' timestamp='1251968541' post='15959']

Yep. Just more fear-mongering from "the right".



Some of these clowns don't understand, that stuff doesn't wash anymore. It just... doesn't! [/quote]



No question about that. The clowns you are talking about just swallow this shit hook line and sinker simply because they despise Obama.

Oh well, things'll get worse if we keep goin' the way we're goin', and pretty soon it'll be kinda hard to deny...

No question about that either. Pretty soon those 50 million without insurance will become 100 million and those with ins will be paying $2000 instead of $1000 a month. Eventually people will wake up to the fact UHC is enevitable.

[quote name='Pragmatist' date='03 September 2009 - 06:40 AM' timestamp='1251974400' post='15969']



No question about that either. Pretty soon those 50 million without insurance will become 100 million and those with ins will be paying $2000 instead of $1000 a month. Eventually people will wake up to the fact UHC is enevitable.

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Yeah - but that's exactly the troubling part, ain't it? They wait till the VERY END, and then they say, "would you rather continue, or do you want UHC"? This is exactly how people get manipulated - by the creation of conditions that are SO bad, that sh*t ends up smelling like roses, and the gutter seems like a step up.



Then they say, "you want the sidewalk, or you want the gutter?"



That's kinda how it works with these clowns. I'd be very careful with that kinda thing, I'd choose to nip it in the bud before it even starts!

[quote name='kmiller1610' date='03 September 2009 - 06:51 AM' timestamp='1251975102' post='15974']

I wonder how many people can't procreate because they can't afford a date?



I wonder how many people don't understand semantics because they can't afford college?



I wonder how many people die in the US because they live in high crime areas?



So many questions. Why do we ask them?

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Typical rightwing don't give a shit attitude, congratulations.