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    ARE The OBAMA ADMIN & DEMOCRATS Seriously Talking about Reducing the DOD Spending?

    Is the Obama Adminstration and Democrats Seriously focusing on talking about reducing the DOD? Or are the Democrats blowing smoke on the water as to attempting to go on Campaign with such as a main talking point?

    What can Obama say other than the Death of OBL? Under this current Adminstration we are currently dropping bombs on militants in Somalia, Yemen, and Pakistan. 3 countries we are not at war with. Then there is Libya who we are also not at War with. Yet we spending ordinance and money to coordiante these attacks on all these so called militants. Spending money to move satellites and coordinate Air-strikes with drones. Yet we even have the White House Press Secretary stating we don't not even know who all the militant players are in certain regions of the M.E. and Africa.

    Certain Republicans will not say anything as all falls in accord with that Neo-Con Agenda. Yet what about these Neo-libs that have no clue as to what is going on with all these differnt Militants that seem to be rising up all over the M.E.(except in Syria)other than the fact that they are Shia and want reform in those Sunni Ruled Countries.

    How can we reduce more in the Miltary if this Adminstration is going to keep on okaying attacks into other foreign counties? Plus if we are not going to reduce what is in the SOS Dept, with aspects to Embassies and SOS personell. Including all those Marines attached to all US Embassies?

    Barney Frank has stated recently due to the fiscal crisis in the country that his Mantra would be Defense and Military Spending. What about the backing of those NGO'S like in Palestine where we gave the Palestians 98 Million. What about the same with Egypt and whom they have told the US they Will need 40 billion for their up and coming Democratic Election backed by a Full Constitution.

    We have Heard this President state about doing the same, yet he is constantly giving the go-ahead on these strikes into these other countries. How can we reduce the military if we have to restock our munitions to current levels? If we are to scale back then shouldn't ALL going on Campaign with the Lord Marshall and even those from the right that advocat such. Be shown what they have been voting for and wasting our money upon. Including with all this Nation Building and Infrastructure legislation being passed by both sides of the Aisle. Which is then tied to our US miltiary doing such.

    Who will hold the upper hand when it comes to going on Campaign???
    Will Obama and the Democrats play like they are innocent and blame Republicans. Kucinich and other Blue-Dogs have not stopped their legal proceedings with the War Powers Act agaisnt Obama. Clinton-crats are outright questioning Obama in public. We already know the right will be 100% against Obama. But what about his own and all those Independants that he is shooting for? Thoughts?


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    Are we talking money or troops?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottie View Post
    Are we talking money or troops?
    I don't think they are seriously talking about either, but I think part of the reason is if you start bringing the troops home, unemployment will rise, and if you start cutting defense programs, unemployment will also rise.
    He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    I don't think they are seriously talking about either, but I think part of the reason is if you start bringing the troops home, unemployment will rise, and if you start cutting defense programs, unemployment will also rise.
    The only reason i asked is so i know how to respond....if you talking about cutting troops...I would say im not sure how much it will impact the mission....Starting in 2003 the did a "force shaping" in the Air Force where they cut a good many....

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottie View Post
    Are we talking money or troops?
    Money troops, Tech. logistics,and ordinace.....then NGO's, NFP's, and all that nation-building and infrastructure that the US military is doing.

    Then that we are dropping those bombs in Countries we are not at war with, on Militants that we state we do not know what they are about. Meaning not being affilated to that Terror list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Media Critic View Post
    Is the Obama Adminstration and Democrats Seriously focusing on talking about reducing the DOD? Or are the Democrats blowing smoke on the water as to attempting to go on Campaign with such as a main talking point?

    What can Obama say other than the Death of OBL? Under this current Adminstration we are currently dropping bombs on militants in Somalia, Yemen, and Pakistan. 3 countries we are not at war with. Then there is Libya who we are also not at War with. Yet we spending ordinance and money to coordiante these attacks on all these so called militants. Spending money to move satellites and coordinate Air-strikes with drones. Yet we even have the White House Press Secretary stating we don't not even know who all the militant players are in certain regions of the M.E. and Africa.

    Certain Republicans will not say anything as all falls in accord with that Neo-Con Agenda. Yet what about these Neo-libs that have no clue as to what is going on with all these differnt Militants that seem to be rising up all over the M.E.(except in Syria)other than the fact that they are Shia and want reform in those Sunni Ruled Countries.

    How can we reduce more in the Miltary if this Adminstration is going to keep on okaying attacks into other foreign counties? Plus if we are not going to reduce what is in the SOS Dept, with aspects to Embassies and SOS personell. Including all those Marines attached to all US Embassies?

    Barney Frank has stated recently due to the fiscal crisis in the country that his Mantra would be Defense and Military Spending. What about the backing of those NGO'S like in Palestine where we gave the Palestians 98 Million. What about the same with Egypt and whom they have told the US they Will need 40 billion for their up and coming Democratic Election backed by a Full Constitution.

    We have Heard this President state about doing the same, yet he is constantly giving the go-ahead on these strikes into these other countries. How can we reduce the military if we have to restock our munitions to current levels? If we are to scale back then shouldn't ALL going on Campaign with the Lord Marshall and even those from the right that advocat such. Be shown what they have been voting for and wasting our money upon. Including with all this Nation Building and Infrastructure legislation being passed by both sides of the Aisle. Which is then tied to our US miltiary doing such.

    Who will hold the upper hand when it comes to going on Campaign???
    Will Obama and the Democrats play like they are innocent and blame Republicans. Kucinich and other Blue-Dogs have not stopped their legal proceedings with the War Powers Act agaisnt Obama. Clinton-crats are outright questioning Obama in public. We already know the right will be 100% against Obama. But what about his own and all those Independants that he is shooting for? Thoughts?
    Not just OBL

    1. Ordered the Killing of Bin Laden
    2. Ordered the Killing of Pirates that took over our ship
    3. Troop surge in Aftghanastan
    4. Drawing down from Iraq
    5. Drawing down from Aftghanastan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Media Critic View Post
    Money troops, Tech. logistics,and ordinace.....then NGO's, NFP's, and all that nation-building and infrastructure that the US military is doing.

    Then that we are dropping those bombs in Countries we are not at war with, on Militants that we state we do not know what they are about. Meaning not being affilated to that Terror list.
    More faux outrage for breakfast?

    I get it that the right doesn't want us to cut the military or end the empire. Unfortunately, for them, we must do so because the political will is for austerity.

    In so far as not doing "nation building" anymore, well, there is absolutely no harm in stopping a practice you never should have begun in the first place.
    "after 9/11 bush was polling around 90 percent. that means the vast majority of democrats and independents put partisanship aside and threw in their lot with the country and her president, and it was only after years of bush's abject failure that this support began to erode.

    i've yet to see any evidence this move is even in the republican playbook. obama's got a D on his helmet so republicans want to see him sacked. period." Highway234

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cicero View Post
    More faux outrage for breakfast?

    I get it that the right doesn't want us to cut the military or end the empire. Unfortunately, for them, we must do so because the political will is for austerity.

    In so far as not doing "nation building" anymore, well, there is absolutely no harm in stopping a practice you never should have begun in the first place.
    Nah.....see when I post up any articles about any subject. I doubt its about Faux outrage. But I will go after those whose policy it is and has been since 2009. You should have figured out by now that the left isnt going to cut the military nor is it even serious about doing so. So getting on National Television with front man Barney-Five/Frank and talking about reducing that footprint overseas and that is going to be your main mantra. Maybe you should write him & take that bullshit to him.

    What should all talking points come from the Faux Outrage man. We notice you sure seem to tell many of those on the right that when they post something up that it is Faux outrage. What you got to say about the systematic oppression of the Shia by those from the left with that elitist mentality with NGO'S and NFP's, all ten times the amount more when it comes to spending with all that nation building for Austerity purposes that you were railing about. All coming under Democratic leadership. Nah you couldnt figure that shit out with a blackboard and chalk if it was shown to you. That it comes from that liberal mindset that you sport. Which leads to the incite as to why all must burst that bubble of yours when it comes to Any news that is being put out there at all.

    Maybe you should save the faux outrage.....for all those that come from that sheltered backyard. I am sure they are surpised that life goes on by regardless if they think of so or not!

    What Democratic President has reduced more in military spending that has amounted to any significant reduction than any Republican President? Other than Georgie Boy Jr who did not reduce any. Looks like your faux outrage should be showing!


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    Plus we do have the S&P that states when they gave the US the Down-grade it had nothing to do with Military Spending.....Yet all the Top Dog Dems are talking about reducing the Military and more than what Gates put out there. Still it is the Dems that approved 1 billion in debt that they washed out with the Egyptians owing us that money. Plus the Egyptians Seized Mubaraks accounts estimated to be worth over 70 billion Dollars. Yet none of the left called for Egypt to take Mubaraks money to assit in all those loans they say they need.

    All last week Obama approved the dropping of bombs in Countries the US is not at war with.....so going on Campaign not only Obama and the New Democratic party of Neo-Libs are talking about Reducing the Spending. But they fail to mention on how much further they put us in the hole by using our Military sources.

    Which any politicans saying they are for cuts in the DOD again should be confronted on the bills they voted on to increase that spending. Or wasted the money thru some NFP.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Media Critic View Post
    Plus we do have the S&P that states when they gave the US the Down-grade it had nothing to do with Military Spending.....Yet all the Top Dog Dems are talking about reducing the Military and more than what Gates put out there. Still it is the Dems that approved 1 billion in debt that they washed out with the Egyptians owing us that money. Plus the Egyptians Seized Mubaraks accounts estimated to be worth over 70 billion Dollars. Yet none of the left called for Egypt to take Mubaraks money to assit in all those loans they say they need.

    All last week Obama approved the dropping of bombs in Countries the US is not at war with.....so going on Campaign not only Obama and the New Democratic party of Neo-Libs are talking about Reducing the Spending. But they fail to mention on how much further they put us in the hole by using our Military sources.

    Which any politicans saying they are for cuts in the DOD again should be confronted on the bills they voted on to increase that spending. Or wasted the money thru some NFP.
    Nope. Defense spending needs to be cut. S&P spoke to the debt trajectory and the political will to change it. That means ending bad interventiionist and nation building policies. Empire is a luxury we cannot afford in austere times.
    "after 9/11 bush was polling around 90 percent. that means the vast majority of democrats and independents put partisanship aside and threw in their lot with the country and her president, and it was only after years of bush's abject failure that this support began to erode.

    i've yet to see any evidence this move is even in the republican playbook. obama's got a D on his helmet so republicans want to see him sacked. period." Highway234


 
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