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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews



    I especially like the claim by the feds that the AZ law will place an undue burden on the feds and make it hard for them to do their jobs, because they'll refer too many illegals to the feds for processing.



    So the feds are failures at processing the sheer numbers of illegal aliens that have penetrated our borders, in a nutshell. And because of that, any attempt by a state to round up illegals and get them into the federal system for processing should be blocked by a judge? That's an interesting approach to problem solving. If you have an agency that is a total turd, cannot do its job, just force everyone who counts on that agency to lower their expectations. Problem solved!



    Hopefully, this whole mess will make it impossible for the feds to keep shrugging this one off, if nothing else. Because even if the feds block the AZ law, other states are going to push their own laws anyway, and keep applying pressure.



    I find it unconscionable that the federal government doesn't deem preventing illegal immigration to be a fairly high priority.

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    [quote name='splansing' date='06 July 2010 - 09:32 AM' timestamp='1278433940' post='163505']

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews



    I especially like the claim by the feds that the AZ law will place an undue burden on the feds and make it hard for them to do their jobs, because they'll refer too many illegals to the feds for processing.



    So the feds are failures at processing the sheer numbers of illegal aliens that have penetrated our borders, in a nutshell. And because of that, any attempt by a state to round up illegals and get them into the federal system for processing should be blocked by a judge? That's an interesting approach to problem solving. If you have an agency that is a total turd, cannot do its job, just force everyone who counts on that agency to lower their expectations. Problem solved!



    Hopefully, this whole mess will make it impossible for the feds to keep shrugging this one off, if nothing else. Because even if the feds block the AZ law, other states are going to push their own laws anyway, and keep applying pressure.



    I find it unconscionable that the federal government doesn't deem preventing illegal immigration to be a fairly high priority.

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    It would make sense to control illegal border crossings, if working for America first was a priority. As this suit shows, it isn't. The corporations that control the government needs your wages to be down, they need your standard of living to be down, they need to bring the country down, then we can be conflated with Mexico, and other third world nations, and the global government can be in the open. Hell man, they are now calling for the global currency, and yes, one has to do with the other.
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    [quote name='michaelr' date='06 July 2010 - 12:40 PM' timestamp='1278434451' post='163509']Hell man, they are now calling for the global currency, and yes, one has to do with the other.[/quote]Really? "They" are?



    (Not sure why I keep asking for it...)

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    [quote name='splansing' date='06 July 2010 - 09:49 AM' timestamp='1278434991' post='163511']

    Really? "They" are?



    (Not sure why I keep asking for it...)

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    Umm, gee, yes, the UN just called for the SDR to replace the dollar the other day, I think it is in the Economy section, but a simple google search should satisfy your curiosity.
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    [quote name='michaelr' date='06 July 2010 - 12:40 PM' timestamp='1278434451' post='163509']

    It would make sense to control illegal border crossings, if working for America first was a priority. As this suit shows, it isn't. The corporations that control the government needs your wages to be down, they need your standard of living to be down, they need to bring the country down, then we can be conflated with Mexico, and other third world nations, and the global government can be in the open. Hell man, they are now calling for the global currency, and yes, one has to do with the other.

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    why the fuck would these corporations you say control the government want to bring the country down to third world status? Your arguement has simply been ludicrously stupid since day 1.

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    [quote name='Pragmatist' date='06 July 2010 - 10:16 AM' timestamp='1278436605' post='163521']

    why the fuck would these corporations you say control the government want to bring the country down to third world status? Your arguement has simply been ludicrously stupid since day 1.

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    You assume it is about money, well those days are gone, they have a few thousand trillion in derivatives, in other words, they have unlimited funds. What they lack is the worker class and controller class, and that is their reason.
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    [quote name='michaelr' date='06 July 2010 - 12:51 PM' timestamp='1278435117' post='163514']

    Umm, gee, yes, the UN just called for the SDR to replace the dollar the other day, I think it is in the Economy section, but a simple google search should satisfy your curiosity.

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    The UN didn't call "for the SDR to replace the dollar." The UN report suggested that the dollar be replaced as the main global reserve currency. There is a difference. One is a deliberately misleading and inflammatory statement made by somebody with a deep-seated psychological addiction to conspiracy theories, and the other is the reality.



    In fact, the SDR's you refer to using only an acronym in an attempt to appear well-informed are themselves to be based on the dollar, as well as 3 other currencies.



    This isn't a sign of a global Bilderberg conspiracy. This is a sign that the rest of the world isn't entirely confident that the U.S. is going to be able to make good on its enormous debts in the coming years and decades. This is a result of the fact that Americans consume way too much plastic shit from China, spend way too much of their time producing nothing, and are way too comfortable borrowing money they can't pay back to cover a disgracefully lavish lifestyle by the standards of pretty much everyone else in the world. You can have your PlayStation3, of course. But if you intend to have somebody else make it for you and pay them with credit that you never intend to make good on by producing something yourself in turn, then people are going to start to turn away from you.



    Without America's military capabilities, it would have happened a long time ago. Americans aren't victims of a conspiracy. Americans are victims of their own sense of entitlement and laziness. Americans are victims of the triumphs of prior generations and the wealth and power they bequeathed us.

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    [quote name='splansing' date='06 July 2010 - 10:21 AM' timestamp='1278436869' post='163524']

    The UN didn't call "for the SDR to replace the dollar." The UN report suggested that the dollar be replaced as the main global reserve currency. There is a difference. One is a deliberately misleading and inflammatory statement made by somebody with a deep-seated psychological addiction to conspiracy theories, and the other is the reality.



    In fact, the SDR's you refer to using only an acronym in an attempt to appear well-informed are themselves to be based on the dollar, as well as 3 other currencies.



    This isn't a sign of a global Bilderberg conspiracy. This is a sign that the rest of the world isn't entirely confident that the U.S. is going to be able to make good on its enormous debts in the coming years and decades. This is a result of the fact that Americans consume way too much plastic shit from China, spend way too much of their time producing nothing, and are way too comfortable borrowing money they can't pay back to cover a disgracefully lavish lifestyle by the standards of pretty much everyone else in the world. You can have your PlayStation3, of course. But if you intend to have somebody else make it for you and pay them with credit that you never intend to make good on by producing something yourself in turn, then people are going to start to turn away from you.



    Without America's military capabilities, it would have happened a long time ago. Americans aren't victims of a conspiracy. Americans are victims of their own sense of entitlement and laziness. Americans are victims of the triumphs of prior generations and the wealth and power they bequeathed us.

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    The SDR is a IMF fiat currency, and the UN has no GDP, and no it isn't based on currencies at all, but on derivatives. And yes they called for the replacement of real currency to the SDR and your local currencies including the dollar will be pegged to the SDR, not as you suggest, the other way around. That should give you a clue.



    That in an insane lie.
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    [quote name='michaelr' date='06 July 2010 - 01:19 PM' timestamp='1278436753' post='163522']

    You assume it is about money, well those days are gone, they have a few thousand trillion in derivatives, in other words, they have unlimited funds. What they lack is the worker class and controller class, and that is their reason.

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    More outright stupidity

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    [quote name='Pragmatist' date='06 July 2010 - 10:29 AM' timestamp='1278437347' post='163531']

    More outright stupidity

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    Oh I know, even the government claims almost 1000 trillion in derivatives has been created, and that doesn't even count those from the failout...tee hee, I just coined that...but you believe what you want, you have full control of your life, free trade has nothing to do with breaking this nation nor does the illegal money sucking wars.
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