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    Health overhaul to force changes in employer plans

    Jun 11 03:42 PM US/Eastern

    By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR

    Associated Press Writer

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    WASHINGTON (AP) - Over and over in the health care debate, President Barack Obama said people who like their current coverage would be able to keep it.

    But an early draft of an administration regulation estimates that many employers will be forced to make changes to their health plans under the new law. In just three years, a majority of workers—51 percent—will be in plans subject to new federal requirements, according to the draft.



    Employers say it's more evidence that the law will drive up costs. Republicans say Obama broke his promise. But some experts believe increased regulation will lead to improved benefits for consumers.



    "On the face of it, having consumer protections apply to all insurance plans could be a good thing for employees," said Alex Vachon, an independent health policy consultant. "Technically, it's actually improved coverage."



    The types of changes that employers would be forced to make include offering preventive care without copayments and instituting an appeals process for disputed claims that follows new federal guidelines. The law already requires all health plans to extend coverage to young adult children until they turn 26. But such changes also nudge costs up.



    The Obama administration said the draft regulation is an early version undergoing revision. Nonetheless, the leaked document was getting widespread interest Friday in lobbying firms that represent employers and insurance companies and on Capitol Hill.



    "What we are getting here is a clear indication that most plans will have to change," said James Gelfand, health policy director for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. "From an employer's point of view that's a bad thing. These changes, whether or not they're good for consumers, are most certainly accompanied by a cost."



    Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said it showed that Obama's assurance that Americans would be able to keep the plans they currently have was "a myth" all along.



    "Since its passage, Republican arguments against the bill have been repeatedly vindicated, even as the administration's many promises about the bill have been called into question again and again," McConnell said. "So Democrats may have passed this bill, but the debate is far from over."



    An administration official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the rules are still being written, said the final version will uphold Obama's promise, accommodating employers' desire for flexibility while protecting consumers from runaway costs.



    Employer provided coverage is the mainstay of the nation's health insurance system and is expected to remain so even after the new health care law is fully phased in.



    The main issue in the 83-page regulation is how to deal with what the government calls "grandfathered" health plans.



    Those are plans that predated the health care law and are exempt from many, but not all, of its consumer protections. Lawmakers created the special category to deliver on Obama's promise that people can keep the coverage they have if they like it.



    But health plans change frequently. Premiums and copayments keep rising. Coverage is expanded for some services and restricted for others. Lawmakers asked regulators to spell out how much an employer can change a plan and still claim it to be grandfathered, exempting it from closer federal regulation.



    Employers say the draft rules are too inflexible. Generally plans can lose their protected status by increasing copayments and deductibles above certain limits. Gelfand said medical inflation alone would push many employers over the line.



    How employers react to the final rules will be critical. If major companies start dropping health care benefits, opting instead to pay the government a penalty, Democrats would face a political backlash.



    Stronger consumer protections can mean higher costs for employers. But whether there's a tipping point ahead is still unclear.



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    Evidence??...Where is it? (I see the usual GOP conjecture, but Evidence???)
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    [quote name='Devil505' date='11 June 2010 - 07:03 PM' timestamp='1276300996' post='160311']

    Evidence??...Where is it? (I see the usual GOP conjecture, but Evidence???)

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    The article is from the AP. Hardly the bastion of Conservative thought.

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    [quote name='Six' date='11 June 2010 - 08:24 PM' timestamp='1276302282' post='160314']

    The article is from the AP. Hardly the bastion of Conservative thought.

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    The article presents no such Evidence.
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    [quote name='Devil505' date='11 June 2010 - 07:29 PM' timestamp='1276302555' post='160317']

    The article presents no such Evidence.

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    Over and over in the health care debate, President Barack Obama said people who like their current coverage would be able to keep it.

    But an early draft of an administration regulation estimates that many employers will be forced to make changes to their health plans under the new law. In just three years, a majority of workers—51 percent—will be in plans subject to new federal requirements, according to the draft.




    Your not actually going to try and argue that government programs running UNDER cost is typical are you ? Especially massive ones ? Just because Peebo is the President right ? Wrong.



    It was a horrible bill and you know it and mandated insurance purchased through a private company is unconstitutional. The majority of Americans want the piece of trash repealed. If you ask me it's whats going to define Obama's presidency long term and that should concern his supporters.

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    [quote name='Six' date='11 June 2010 - 08:34 PM' timestamp='1276302857' post='160319']

    Over and over in the health care debate, President Barack Obama said people who like their current coverage would be able to keep it.

    But an early draft of an administration regulation estimates that many employers will be forced to make changes to their health plans under the new law. In just three years, a majority of workers—51 percent—will be in plans subject to new federal requirements, according to the draft.




    Your not actually going to try and argue that government programs running UNDER cost is typical are you ? Especially massive ones ? Just because Peebo is the President right ? Wrong.



    It was a horrible bill and you know it and mandated insurance purchased through a private company is unconstitutional. The majority of Americans want the piece of trash repealed. If you ask me it's whats going to define Obama's presidency long term and that should concern his supporters.

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    Your topic title claims "Evidence"....NOT... more GOP Talking Points. (& the HC LAW isn't horrible....It could have been allot stronger,like with a Public Option..... but at least it's a start)
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    [quote name='Devil505' date='11 June 2010 - 07:38 PM' timestamp='1276303119' post='160321']

    Your topic title claims "Evidence"....NOT... more GOP Talking Points.

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    Again that WAS from the AP article. So if there is any debate towards any of Obama's policies it's GOP talking points ?



    Sounds like your up for a few new laws like no criticizing this President or any politician with a D next to his name.

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    [quote name='Six' date='11 June 2010 - 08:41 PM' timestamp='1276303269' post='160322']

    Again that WAS from the AP article.

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    Again....The AP article present no evidence, just conjecture from unnamed sources. (& since when is an alleged "Early Draft" of "Estimates" .....evidence of anything??)
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    You want evidence?



    Check the history of every entitlement ever instituted.



    Start with Social Security. Hold onto your puke bucket.



    Benefits always expand because so many politicians don't care about budgets and costs always go up.
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    [quote name='Devil505' date='11 June 2010 - 07:45 PM' timestamp='1276303514' post='160324']

    Again....The AP article present no evidence, just conjecture from unnamed sources. (& since when is an alleged "Early Draft" of "Estimates" .....evidence of anything??)

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    You forget that the right has a hard time differentiated evidence from conjecture.
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