Thread: Democratic Revolt

It's getting pretty obvious that the Dems will not cave the way Obama wants them too. Obama's attitude is that the GOP are hostage takers & he's willing to negotiate with these hostage takers if they threaten to hurt the hostages....The American people
I & many Dems say...No Way!!.....You don't negotiate with hostage takers...You kill them!!

Harry Reid & Nancy Pelosi are rumored to be fighting this Gutless deal!!...Good for them!!

& why isn't the Teaparty screaming at this deficit blowing deal?!?! (oh right....They're only against government spending & deficits that help their country as opposed to making them personally wealthy!)

It's not an ideal deal (no pun intended) but if enacted, it does prevent a lot of the damage the tax cuts would have caused if extended permanently. Clearly, the GOP does not believe they will have the political power prior to 2012 to get that done, so they do it for two years. They're still unpaid for, but in two years the economy might be strong again and if that is the case, it will be much easier to justify the tax increase we need to get the budget deficit under control in the long term. And, we get a 13-month unemployment extension that the people need. It's a little bit of compromise to put more stability under long term goals. I like it.

Originally Posted by Singularity

It's not an ideal deal (no pun intended) but if enacted, it does prevent a lot of the damage the tax cuts would have caused if extended permanently. Clearly, the GOP does not believe they will have the political power prior to 2012 to get that done, so they do it for two years. They're still unpaid for, but in two years the economy might be strong again and if that is the case, it will be much easier to justify the tax increase we need to get the budget deficit under control in the long term. And, we get a 13-month unemployment extension that the people need. It's a little bit of compromise to put more stability under long term goals. I like it.

The GOP will still fight it tooth & nail in two years & they would have had to eventuially sign the unemployment extension anyway. Obama gave away the farm & got nothing in return! If Obama is that weak negotiating with our internal enemies (the GOP) imagine how badly he'd do with Al Quieda or N. Korea!

Originally Posted by Devil505

It's getting pretty obvious that the Dems will not cave the way Obama wants them too. Obama's attitude is that the GOP are hostage takers & he's willing to negotiate with these hostage takers if they threaten to hurt the hostages....The American people
I & many Dems say...No Way!!.....You don't negotiate with hostage takers...You kill them!!

Harry Reid & Nancy Pelosi are rumored to be fighting this Gutless deal!!...Good for them!!

& why isn't the Teaparty screaming at this deficit blowing deal?!?! (oh right....They're only against government spending & deficits that help their country as opposed to making them personally wealthy!)

I SEE IT THIS WAY : THE 'Bama supporters failed to get their butts out there to vote this past November. The 'indies" bought the crap that the Tea Baggers and extremist Repubers sold them so The 'Bama DOES NOT HAVE THE HOUSE ANYMORE AND WILL HAVE A REDUCED SENATE TO WORK WITH. That has given those who want 'Bama out more life. Look those who voted for him 2 years ago wanted a miracle. Sorry but The 'Bama DOES NOT WALK ON WATER AND THAT IS WHAT IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN FOR HIM TO FIX THE CRAP THAT THE PISS ANT SHRUB GOT US INTO.

And the voters go and give those bufoons who think like the Shrub another chance. GO FIGURE !!!!

Originally Posted by Stefan Bandera

And the voters go and give those bufoons who think like the Shrub another chance. GO FIGURE !!!!

As they say in the car sales business: "There's an ass for every seat!"

Originally Posted by mtm1963

it's the democratic congress's own fault. they should have not left the tax issue to the very last moment. if they would have acted at the beginning of year or even last year, i think they would have had a very good chance of only extending the tax cuts for those earning under 250,000 and leaving those for the so-called rich to expire.

I agree with that...but do you hold the GOP blameless in this money grab for the rich that will cost our grandchildren billions?
(It's pretty obvious to me who's the beach bully & who's the 70lb weakling getting sand kicked in his face!)

I was disappointed that Obama caved in to the "tax cuts for the rich" - however, I wouldn't have put it past the Republicans to not sign on to extending the benefits to the unemployed and that might have been a worst disaster. No tax cuts for anybody and no extensions for the unemployed would probably be the last nail in the coffin. I believe Obama when he says he has more concern for the country and main stream America than in making the Reps look like the "party of the rich" that they are. I think enough people got to see the Reps in action and showing their true colors, caring more for the wealthy.

By giving in to the GOP, the middle-class gets to keep the same tax rates and the unemployed won't have to face such a grim Christmas season. Hopefully all those corporations that seem to be raking in the profits will consider hiring more people and the economy will start getting better. i think it will be a series of compromises from now on to get anything done, hopefully, as smart as Obama is, he has good reasons for choosing as he does.

I'm not going to abandon Obama, that would be exactly what the GOP was also banking on, his base leaving him and turning to them, the ones responsible for the big mess to begin with and the ones who care crap about regular people. I choose to have a "wait and see" attitude and continue to believe that truth eventually wins out.

Originally Posted by mtm1963

do you understand that most of the tax cuts are for those making 250,000 or less and not the rich?

mtm1963

Don't be insulting!!
Those are the ones that you GOP types were holding hostage unless your rich buddies got theirs too!!
I hope your proud of your party!!