Thread: Wake up, America! We need to refocus our attention on our economic crisis.

Rather then worry about rather our President is Muslim, perhaps we should focus on more important things,


Wake up, America! We need to refocus our attention on our economic crisis.



While we divide over wedge issues that are designed to emotionally trigger and distract us in an election year, millions of Americans are slowly marching into poverty and the fate of our nation's overall economy and social infrastructure is uncertain. Death and Joblessness



We've got to pull ourselves together and deal with the national debt, joblessness & the growing poverty in our country.

Congressional Budget Office - The Budget and Economic Outlook: An Update



We need to come up with some solutions with participation from both the public and private sectors.



Let's focus our energies and strive to have a civil and constructive dialogue about this without the polarizing blame game. Pretend we're in a burning car after an accident. Let's figure out how to get out of the car before we decide who is at fault.



"The unity of government which constitutes you one people is also now dear to you. It is justly so, for it is a main pillar in the edifice of your real independence, the support of your tranquility at home, your peace abroad; of your safety; of your prosperity; of that very liberty which you so highly prize." -- George Washington's Farewell Address, 1796 Avalon Project - Washington's Farewell Address 1796

Why ? It is more advantageous for the opposition to bag tea, complain about them homersexuals, God hating baby killing tree hugging tofu eating, white wine swilling, liberals. The economy will right itself if we let the market forces do what they need to do. The market forces will work real well if we do not regulate them and if we give more tax cuts to the richest 1% soon they will go off and entraupeneur all over the place and we will all get trickled on again, and the economy will be good, and the chicken hawks can find another war to fight.

I can agree with most of what you said except..taxes are too low.

Rather it matters alot or not, this came from the Coffee Party USA website, some want to call them left leaning, no..non bias.

Do we really need all those bases all over the world?? I mean seriously??

Originally Posted by Telecaster

AA, this is an excellent thread because it is such an important issue. As you say, much more than the President's faith.

We obviously need to veer away from what the current government is doing. It creates far too much debt, and it doesn't give the private sector confidence to grow. It simply keeps the economy in a dangerous funk. What we need to do is return to the basics of the last thirty years but with some revisions. The right and the left need to understand where they need to give. Conservatives need to accept that some additional regulations and oversight are required in or to avoid housing and banking free falls. And Liberals need to realize that tax cuts must be extended to those who provide jobs, and possibly most important of all, fight off the urge to call doing this "going back to what caused the crash".

If we continue toward a liberal/progressive economy, fewer jobs will exist, and more people will depend on state aide just like any of the heavily socialized nations around the world experince now. The "new normal" is not the answer.

And conservatives need to wake up, and begin to recognize the incredibly irrational lie that is the statement "the rich create jobs." Reality disagrees. The rich do not create very many jobs. You could of course argue that large corporations create jobs, and you would be correct. Though not as correct as another statement which says, firms of all types create jobs, with the largest percentage of jobs being created by small and medium sized firms. From 1993 to 2008, 65% of all new jobs were created at small or medium sized firms. The vast majority of the rest of the jobs were created by large firms. Very, very few jobs were created by wealthy individuals. So since it is accurate to say firms create jobs, and the majority of new firms are created by middle class and upper middle class individuals, it would again be more accurate to say the middle class are the major vehicle for job creation, not the rich.

That is of course unless you mean, that the rich create jobs through consumption. Which is of course, again, a poor argument. The rich of course do create jobs through consumption, but they tend to consume far less, as a percentage of their income, than other income groups do compared to their income levels. So again, the main consumers in our country are the middle class. So again, it is the middle class creating jobs.


I really cannot tell where this rouse of an idea came from. Every conservative seems to parrot the idea as if it were gospel, and yet their is no foundation in reality to the statement. The rich of course create some jobs, but not enough jobs to tailor our tax policy around their job creating skills. If you want to create jobs through tax cuts, you need to lower corporate tax rates, and tax rates on the upper middle class, middle class, and working class. Keeping taxes on the rich low is of much, much, much less significance.

Originally Posted by MajikMyst

Do we really need all those bases all over the world?? I mean seriously??

The mission of the American military was summed up nearly a decade ago: All your base are belong to us.