Thread: how the world works

Hm... well, here's a neat little piece (this is old hat to MichaelR, but maybe brand new to some of you - it's new to me, since I'm just now waking up to some of this stuff) -



So, I'm checking into this Federal Reserve thing, right? And, I'm asking myself - are these guys really evil? Or are they doing us a service?



Well now...



Turns out, there's this little thing, called an SDR. "Special Drawing Rights". What it really is, is an "international currency" - it's used by the member nations of the IMF, to move money amongst themselves, and for loans and such -



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Drawing_Rights



And, you see there, the basket of currencies that comprises the "standard" (the "value") for an SDR - dollars, euros, yen, and GBP.



Only, now, China, Russia, and France are saying that because "we" are in so much debt, the dollar is no longer stable enough to be used as an international currency (we'll get back to that in a minute), and they want to add Yuan, Rubles, and Gold to the basket. (And of course, if they do that, it would dilute the dollar).



So, in asking myself "Why? What good would this do", I came across this - this is a Nobel-prize winning economist from Columbia, saying it would be a GOOD idea to do this:



http://www.forexpros.com/news/forex-...-mundell-42863



And, I'm askin' myself... WHY would a Columbia guy say something like this?



Well now... check out who this guy is: Robert Mundell



So, check this out: Robert Mundell, is the inventor of the Euro! He's a Canadian economist who won a Nobel Prize for something called "optimal currency areas" - and guess what?



He also started the movement called.... ready.... Supply Side Economics!



And, what's an "optimal currency area"? It's the geographic area over which the use of a SINGLE currency is optimal - instead of multiple currencies! And, what goes along with that kind of economic integration? A new Constitution! The European Union! "Supra-national common markets", lead to political integration!



Man, this is all too neat, ain't it?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mundell



But wait... it gets better!



NOW, we get to the real reason for the war in Iraq!



Lookie here: http://www.thinkandask.com/news/thedollar.html



Oil, is denominated in dollars! And, if that changes, foreign countries no longer have an incentive to hold our currency in reserve, which means....



Easy, right?



It all makes sense, right?



And, no one's denying it, right?



Hm.... (shakes head, slaps forehead)....



But wait! There's more! Look here: Lehman Brothers! Remember them?



Lehman Brothers, those are the guys they "allowed" to fail, while everyone else got bailed out! Remember?



And, who is Lehman Brothers? They are one of the ORIGINAL OWNERS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK!!!



Here's the list:

1. The Rothschilds

2. Lazard Freres (Eugene Mayer)

3. Israel Sieff

4. Kuhn Loeb Company

5. Warburg Company

6. Lehman Brothers

7. Goldman Sachs

8. The Rockefeller family and J.P. Morgan interests

And.... WHERE is the 2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS that the Fed refuses to account for? Hm?



Could it be.... they used it to buy the Lehman Shares? Hmmm?



Is THAT why Bernanke isn't talking, and Geithner turns white as a sheet when asked about this?



Jesus H Christ - what a bunch of fuckin' scumbags!!!



So, let's run this through some more - WHY are we still in bed with these scoundrel bankers?



Well, besides the obvious (they like to shoot Presidents when they don't toe the line), there's kinda this thought, that they "own" us.



And, we're not big enough to own THEM (that is, the old saying... if you owe the bank 5 grand, they own you - if you owe 'em 5 million, you own them) -



So, the only way for US to make out, is if we end up controlling the ENTIRE world's economy! Globalism! Ta-da!!!



Only, Putin and the good Chairman Hu, will never allow it!



So now, they're clamoring for Yuan, Rubles, and Gold in the SDR basket, and if the oil gets de-coupled from the dollar, the dollar will sink like a rock! !!!



And, then, all that DEBT we have now, .... ooh boy.... oh, my head hurts.

No comments on this? Wow....



If this is true, then the Federal Reserve Bank has just pulled the largest ripoff of the American taxpayer ever in history!



And no one cares?



Hm.....



Was I unclear on what this all means? Or, y'all knew all about this already?

[quote name='michaelr' date='28 August 2009 - 02:20 PM' timestamp='1251483617' post='12700']

You just exposed the NWO. Thats how real it is.



The assessment on Iraq is spot on, many people still refuse to believe that we set them up, but they were told that we will not involve ourselves in border disputes. Well the rest is history. Now there are a few more countries that want to dump the dollar in lue of the Euro, Iran, Venezuela, and a couple of others, I bet you can easily guess who.



SDR's are in use in the banana republics. The WTO and IMF purposely broke these nations in order to allow this. The exact same thing is happening here in North America. Lets look at Mexico for a quick example, NAFTA, an extension of the WTO, made it possible for Mexicans to import Tomatoes from the US at a cheaper rate than they can grow them, even though they grow them cheaper then we can. It is due to subsidies. Soon the farm lands of Mexico will become barren. Their wealth will be exported. How does that effect us, you would think selling tomatoes to Mexico would be good....wrong, the reason it works the way it does, is because of subsidies. Those subsidies goes to the wealthy investors of con-agra. The seeds are Monsanto, and the prices are set to blossom in the next month or so. The major share holders of all this and more are either in the government, international bankers, or members of international government. A major exportation of our wealth, and I ain't even talked about oil and energy, how we can become dependent overnight, and how that exports major wealth, and they do it under the guise of environmentalism.



Yes Mundell is evil, he has the best think tanks working for him, his propaganda machine is fine tuned, and he and the above mentioned own our media.

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You knew all about this? Well, you clearly know more than I do - which is a good thing, and we need to put our heads together on this.



I can bring a lot of capability to the table, right this very instant. And, as near as I can tell from all this, "the time is now".



I'm just wondering why the others here, aren't commenting.



I mean, come on People - what does this sound like to you? Conspiracy theory? Wild fantasy? What's goin' on?

I can't speak for the other "no comments" but for myself, it goes like this.



If I can use a metaphor, imagine an ecosystem. Let's take the Brazilian rainforrest. There are litterally hundreds of billions of species of plants and animals intertwined in a balance so complex that it is simply impossible for the human mind to comprehend even a fraction of what shapes it.



Now imagine an ant gets up and tells the entire ecosystem: ferns, parrots, frogs, spiders, spores, mushrooms, humans, butterflies... the whole shebang. And this ant is pissed and he says, "I've got it. I've got it all figured out. The problem with the ecosystem is the bullfrogs. They are noisy, the eat too much, they piss in the best swamps. Solve the bullfrog problem and you've solved the problems of the ecosystem".



The world simply does not work like that. There is no 'bad guy'. It's not the Jews, the socialists, the bankers, the media, the nazis, the police, the black people, kids today, musicians, porn, the internet, gay marriage, outsourcing.... there's noone responsible. There's noone in charge. Every single person on the planet has an agenda. And every single one of them is different. And every single one of them is in constant flux with those aorund them - evolving, changing.



I'm sure that some guys in Brussels have some plan to integrate political systems of Europe, but if there's 15 of them they have 15 conflicting ideas about what that result will look like. And there are 15 other people in the room who are pushing for further seperation, and by this time next year they may all be in positions of power and the other 15 are marginalised.





Picking a scapegoat and blaming the world's problems on them is just so very very very very small. It's looking at one atom of a cell of a piece of skin on a Mongolian guy's nose and saying 'Ah, that's what sex is all about. Now I understand".

Why would the 6 billion people of the world want their livlihood and savings based on the currency of one random country they have no representation in? Other than the reason they've had to swallow it for 50 years - the threat of violence if they fight back?

WW2 left Europe and Asia completely and totally devastated. Which left you a superpower despite noone else on the planet seeing that as desireable or in any way benifitial to them. Those who objected were delt with by wither the Marines or the CIA, depending on the sensitivities of the homefornt. Those who played ball were rewarded.



But what I've learned, and expressed in my other post, was that that's not because of some 'tryanny gene' in Americans. Anybody would have acted like that in that position. If Belgium had been the only place unravaged in 1945 they would have gone around being bullies and thugs too. So would the bullfrogs if they were suddenly the biggest toughest specis in the rainforrest.





I don't want my livlihood and savings based on the euro or yuan enymore than the US dollar. I'd like something a little less tyranical. The UN would work if my country had representation in it, but since we don't that's tyranny as well.



I don't want to be governed by anybody I don't have a vote in electing.