Thread: Obama’s Shadow Government

Obama’s Shadow Government



30 Czars, huh, you would think we live in Russia.



This is how Obama bypasses congress, these Czars set policy, and they are an unconstitutional part of the government. All that transparency, another lie.

[quote name='michaelr' date='29 April 2010 - 08:56 AM' timestamp='1272556578' post='145436']

Obama’s Shadow Government



30 Czars, huh, you would think we live in Russia.



This is how Obama bypasses congress, these Czars set policy, and they are an unconstitutional part of the government. All that transparency, another lie.

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These czars have recieved no objections from Congress. Glenn Beck has identified 32 Obama czars on his Web site, whom he has characterized as a collective "iceberg" threatening to capsize the Constitution, of the 32 czars Beck lists...



Nine were confirmed by the Senate, including the director of national intelligence ("intelligence czar"), the chief performance officer ("government performance czar") and the deputy interior secretary ("California water czar").



Eight more were not appointed by the president – the special advisor to the EPA overseeing its Great Lakes restoration plan ("Great Lakes czar") is EPA-appointed, for instance, and the assistant secretary for international affairs and special representative for border affairs ("border czar") is appointed by the secretary of homeland security.



Fifteen of the "czarships" Beck lists, including seven that are in neither of the above categories, were created by previous administrations. (In some cases, as with the "economic czar," the actual title – in this case, chairman of the president’s economic recovery advisory board – is new, but there has been an official overseeing the area in past administrations. In others, as with the special envoy to Sudan, the position is old but the "czar" appellation is new.)



In all, of the 32 positions in Beck’s list, only eight are Obama-appointed, unconfirmed, brand new czars.



So Glenn Beck is full of shit, no surprise.



http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/czar-search/

[quote name='Goldwater' date='29 April 2010 - 09:21 AM' timestamp='1272558104' post='145447']

These czars have recieved no objections from Congress. Glenn Beck has identified 32 Obama czars on his Web site, whom he has characterized as a collective "iceberg" threatening to capsize the Constitution, of the 32 czars Beck lists...



Nine were confirmed by the Senate, including the director of national intelligence ("intelligence czar"), the chief performance officer ("government performance czar") and the deputy interior secretary ("California water czar").



Eight more were not appointed by the president – the special advisor to the EPA overseeing its Great Lakes restoration plan ("Great Lakes czar") is EPA-appointed, for instance, and the assistant secretary for international affairs and special representative for border affairs ("border czar") is appointed by the secretary of homeland security.



Fifteen of the "czarships" Beck lists, including seven that are in neither of the above categories, were created by previous administrations. (In some cases, as with the "economic czar," the actual title – in this case, chairman of the president’s economic recovery advisory board – is new, but there has been an official overseeing the area in past administrations. In others, as with the special envoy to Sudan, the position is old but the "czar" appellation is new.)



In all, of the 32 positions in Beck’s list, only eight are Obama-appointed, unconfirmed, brand new czars.



So Glenn Beck is full of shit, no surprise.



http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/czar-search/

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We have three branches of government not four. BTW the three branches are equal under the constitution, not the fourth. They have no place, no transparency or oversight.



Whats this thread got to do with Beck?

[quote name='michaelr' date='29 April 2010 - 09:26 AM' timestamp='1272558404' post='145450']

Whats this thread got to do with Beck?

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His claims are similar to yours.

[quote name='Goldwater' date='29 April 2010 - 09:41 AM' timestamp='1272559296' post='145456']

His claims are similar to yours.

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Well I guess it's true, a broken watch is right a couple time a day.

One famous American czar wrote a book...

[quote name='michaelr' date='29 April 2010 - 11:56 AM' timestamp='1272556578' post='145436']

Obama’s Shadow Government



30 Czars, huh, you would think we live in Russia.



This is how Obama bypasses congress, these Czars set policy, and they are an unconstitutional part of the government. All that transparency, another lie.

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Several points...



1) The "czars" cannot write, sign, or change policy. They are advisers.

2) Obama has roughly the same number of "czars" as Bush.

3) Your joke about Russia falls flat when you consider that the Russian Czars were even more anti-socialist than you.

4) About ten of Obama's "czars" were confirmed by the Senate*. That would bring down the total.



* TARP czar, drug czar, intelligence czar, performance czar, regulatory czar, technology czar, etc.