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  1. 29th June 2011 02:06 PM #1
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    'Get it done,' Obama challenges GOP on debt talks

    By DAVID ESPO - AP Special Correspondent | AP – 31 mins ago...
    WASHINGTON (AP) — In a blunt challenge to Republicans in Congress, President Barack Obama insisted Wednesday that elimination of selected tax breaks for oil companies and the super-wealthy must be included in any deficit reduction plan.

    "You stay here. Let's get it done," he all-but-lectured lawmakers, holding open the possibility of keeping Congress in Washington unless there is significant progress by week's end on a deal to cut deficits, raise the $14.3 trillion debt limit and avert a threatened financial crisis.
    'Get it done,' Obama challenges GOP on debt talks - Yahoo! News


    Any thoughts on who's right here?
    Should he make Congress stay in session?
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  2. 29th June 2011 02:06 PM #2
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    How can the president make them stay? Not that I don't agree that they need to get this done, but I don't think the president can make them do anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    How can the president make them stay? Not that I don't agree that they need to get this done, but I don't think the president can make them do anything.
    He has the power to call them back into session.


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    Article II - The Executive Branch

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    Section 3 - State of the Union, Convening Congress
    He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.


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  6. 29th June 2011 02:25 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    He has the power to call them back into session.


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    Article II - The Executive Branch

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    Section 3 - State of the Union, Convening Congress
    He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.


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    It would be classic if the repubs pulled a Wisconsin and fled the country.

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    Hey raise the debters, you know this will only give you more taxes whilst Obama gets to drop more bombs and bailout the EU, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordent View Post
    It would be classic if the repubs pulled a Wisconsin and fled the country.
    Sorry, that was funny. Not when you consider the stakes, but still, funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    He has the power to call them back into session.
    I think a little tit-for-tat is in order. If he ignores the Constitutional authority of congress to declare war, why shouldn't congress ignore Constitutional powers reserved for the president? Good for the goose, good for the gander.

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