Thread: Wanted: Viable GOP Candidate for President in 2012

Originally Posted by wingrider

well actually I guess I should ahve edited your post to reveal only the part I was thinking about and that is his being a harvard grad..

and you may be right about Gates.. that was a common sense move.. so I guess there is some common sense there albeit little.

Cool beans, Wingrider. I know you're not talking about Sarah Palin... I originally replied to Miller that brought her up. But do you think she actually has a great deal of common sense? To me, common sense would have kept her off reality TV, kept her in her Governer job, and declined the offer of running for VP due to her inexperience. That's just my opinion. But, I wouldn't really credit her with a tremendous amount of common sense to compare to President Obama's book smarts.

Originally Posted by gabebrooks

I can understand the rest, even if I don't agree with it. But the last sentence surprises me. What gives you this idea? I mean, I don't really see Sarah Palin as being prepared to attend Harvard let alone graduate it magna cum laude.

Book sense vs common sense.

Palin would never send billions to temporarily prop up state governments.

Palin would never raise spend beyond our means, then propose a freeze of that spending level as a way of supposedly "cutting."

Palin would not wait for 6 weeks before dealing with an oil spill.

Then again, neither would most competent politicians. He's a weenie academic with delusions of godhood and the guts of a file clerk.

Originally Posted by kmiller1610

Book sense vs common sense.

Palin would never send billions to temporarily prop up state governments.

That would be a major departure from what most of our presidents have seemed to do, both Republican and Democrat.

Palin would never raise spend beyond our means, then propose a freeze of that spending level as a way of supposedly "cutting."

Former President Reagan did. Former President George HW Bush broke his taxes promise trying to fix what Reagan did. Spending too much is not really a problem that Democrats alone own.

Palin would not wait for 6 weeks before dealing with an oil spill.

It really would depend on what advise she got.

Then again, neither would most competent politicians. He's a weenie academic with delusions of godhood and the guts of a file clerk.

How do you measure his lack of guts?

Honestly, I can't get past the way he managed money in his first year in office. He took all that stimulus money and dithered it away on political paybacks and insignificant, small thinking, limited, short term efforts. No vision, no consistency, no sense of firing the public's imagination. Propping up state governments was the last straw. What a waste. He "community organized" the "plan" by taking everyone's suggestions and doing as many as he could. That's a middle manager at best. Not a president. His 2011 budget (what budget?) is no better.

Palin did a better job as small town mayor and had a much better sense of engaging the public.

I'm sorry, but the comparisons to other Presidents is totally irrelevant. Some awareness of our situation would seem to be the most basic indication of intelligence. I see none.

All the vaunted brainpower I heard about during the 2008 campaign was nowhere to be found.

The real paucity of legitimate candidates within the Republican Party has been underscored by the recent emergence of Donald Trump as a "player" in the field. If a non-political outsider can step up and join the conversation on a par with "stalwart party leaders" like Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee, and Mitt Romney, then the party stalwarts evidently don't have much credibility in the first place.

Of course, none of the putative candidates has formally "announced" yet (with the exception of "token" businessman Herman Cain), but many of them have put together the bases of a campaign staff, and one or two have formed "exploratory committees." There hasn't been so much confusion and misdirection on a national scale since Huntz Hall and the Bowery Boys were making movies. The only thing all Republicans agree on is that they want power and they want it now.

Originally Posted by kmiller1610

Honestly, I can't get past the way he managed money in his first year in office. He took all that stimulus money and dithered it away on political paybacks and insignificant, small thinking, limited, short term efforts.

You're FOS.


WSJ - Stimulus
09-16-2009, 10:29 AM
WASHINGTON -- Government efforts to funnel hundreds of billions of dollars into the U.S. economy appear to be helping the U.S. climb out of the worst recession in decades.
WSJ - Stimulus [Archive] - Naruto Forums

Most economists say Fed’s stimulus plan is helping
Survey: 62.4 percent of economists think $600 billion stimulus plan is working
msnbc.com business - Most economists say Fed's stimulus plan is helping

Economists Credit Stimulus For Getting Economy Back On Track
Economists Credit Stimulus For Getting Economy Back On Track - Justin Gardner - Political Pulse - True/Slant






Now....Remember the headlines when you guys left office?


Is today's economic crisis another Great Depression?
Is today's economic crisis another Great Depression? - USATODAY.com


The Wall Street Journal
Worst Crisis Since '30s, With No End Yet in Sight
Business News & Financial News - The Wall Street Journal - Wsj.com





This is what will sweep Obama back into the WH in 2012! (it's the economy stupid)

Originally Posted by Pragmatist

That's the comment that usually comes from one who has neither.

are you speaking from experience on yourself ?

or is that another of your little infantile digs?