Census

**Blueneck** · 25th March 2010 11:28 AM

[quote name='Burning Giraffe' date='25 March 2010 - 11:18 AM' timestamp='1269530311' post='132748']

I answered all they need know. Maybe so long as two of the questions are answered the fines will be less. It doesn't matter. I despise my government and will not cooperate with them. Lucky for them my value-system depends upon a universal respect for the liberty, property, and freedom from force of all individuals... even ones involved in something as dastardly as the imperial federal government. I honestly hope people keep away from violence until an official declaration of war has been made. Chaos will ultimately benefit the Statists.

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So you hate the system or just the individuals who represent you?

**Sparta** · 25th March 2010 11:33 AM

"Hate" is a strong word for an elected body of government, but a little uncomfortableness is good. It's like if you're by yourself and a child molester enters the room, you know he's not gonna try to cop a feel, but still you gotta keep your eye on him...just in case.

**michaelr** · 25th March 2010 11:34 AM

[quote name='Sparta' date='25 March 2010 - 10:33 AM' timestamp='1269538397' post='132829']

"Hate" is a strong word for an elected body of government, but a little uncomfortableness is good. It's like if you're by yourself and a child molester enters the room, you know he's not gonna try to cop a feel, but still you gotta keep your eye on him...just in case.

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Huh, hell man I thought hate in this case was a bit of an understatement.

**Djinn** · 25th March 2010 12:21 PM

[quote name='kmiller1610' date='25 March 2010 - 11:43 AM' timestamp='1269531817' post='132762']

Are we supposed to skew justice based on how big a percentage of the population has a certain skin pigment?[/quote]

Yes. Justice must reflect the attitudes of society, and society cares rather a lot about skin pigments - as much as I would like it to be otherwise.

Why don't we track countries of origin or religion?

Country of origin is already tracked - they're called "immigration records." And U.S. law is supposed to steer clear of religion.

**Chief** · 25th March 2010 12:26 PM

[quote name='kmiller1610' date='25 March 2010 - 06:34 AM' timestamp='1269524045' post='132693']

We've been at this long enough. By continuing to focus on race, you reinforce divisions. The rights have been won. Time to move on.

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I agree with you that it reinforces division. But I don't think prejudice has been marginalized enough to take our eye off it. As things improve, the protections should be gradually rolled back to make everything fair. But, we aren't all there yet.

**Burning Giraffe** · 25th March 2010 12:47 PM

[quote name='Goldwater' date='25 March 2010 - 12:05 PM' timestamp='1269533156' post='132770']

I always thought racial discrimination was the biggest reinforcer of racial divisions. You aren't trying to insinuate that racial discrimination doesn't exist anymore, are you?[/quote]

Not as previously constituted, and not with the same relevant force. There are now more race pimps out there then actual racists. That is to say, there are more people out there using racism as a justification for racism, then there are racists. I obviously don't have figures to back that up - it's my experience. I understand others may have different experiences. But in NC, MD, and VA... that seems to be the way things are (with some exceptions).

**kmiller1610** · 25th March 2010 12:50 PM

[quote name='Goldwater' date='25 March 2010 - 12:05 PM' timestamp='1269533156' post='132770']

I always thought racial discrimination was the biggest reinforcer of racial divisions. You aren't trying to insinuate that racial discrimination doesn't exist anymore, are you?[/quote]

Of course not. And please don't stop exploring it in art, music and juris prudence of all kinds.... But the categories must become meaningless over time. So let's get started......