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    Fox News Reveals Its True Colors In On Air Attack On the Constitution

    On Fox and Friends today, Fox News argued against liberty and freedom with a claim that the Constitution is too outdated to handle the war on terror. Gretchen Carlson said, “Ok, well back in the 1700s and 1800s, we didn’t have this thing called the war on terror where you have to get to the bottom of things quickly.”

    Fox News had on contributor former judge Andrew Napolitano to discuss the Constitution and the Patriot Act. Napolitano said, “I feel like I’m shoving against the tide when it comes to the Patriot Act, although there were 26 Republicans who voted against it. Here’s the problem with that. The Constitution says if the government wants to read your mail, or look at your business records, or listen to your phone calls it has to go to judge present evidence that you’ve done something wrong. The fancy phrase is probable cause, and if the judge agrees, the judge will authorize the government to do that. The Patriot Act lets the government bypass the Constitution.”

    Napolitano was interrupted by Steve Doocy who tried to say that the Patriot Act doesn’t bypass the Constitution, just the judge. Napolitano straightened him out, “Bypass the Constitution by letting federal agents write their own search warrants.”

    Gretchen Carlson made the Fox News argument that the constitution to too outdated to fight the war on terror, “Ok, well back in the 1700s and 1800s, we didn’t have this thing called the war on terror where you have to get to the bottom of things quickly and if we wait, people argue, to go to a judge then sometimes that terrorist could already do the dirty deed.”

    Napolitano knocked down that argument, “That is not a serious argument to be made and I’ll tell you why, because judges sit 24/7. The person now speaking to you used to issue search warrants in my gym shorts in my living room at three o’clock in the morning when the police needed them…This argument about speed does not justify violating the Constitution.”

    Andrew Napolitano’s comments perfectly illustrate the ideological feud that is currently unfolding within the Republican Party between the neo-cons and the Tea Party. Fox News through propaganda mouthpiece Gretchen Carlson took the neo-con position that the Constitution is outdated, so it is fine to violate the Constitution anytime a president, but only a Republican president, feels like it. The fact that the hosts would try to argue that the Constitution is outdated shows just how deeply the Bush era idea that the Constitution is an optional guideline has permeated parts of the Republican Party.

    Just in case the Fox News position on the Constitution wasn’t clear enough, later in the show, the Fox and Friends crew hosted Donald Rumsfeld, who criticized Obama for not using the term war on terror.

    Fox News has finally shown their true colors on the air. The network doesn’t care about freedom or liberty. They don’t even care about the Constitution. Their singular interest is in advocating for the Republican Party. Fox News isn’t about protecting our freedom. They attacked the Constitution as an outdated document that doesn’t need to be followed all of the time. Fox News is nothing, but the Republican/neo-con propaganda network. All of you libertarians and self described Tea Party Patriots would be wise to join with the rest of us on this one. If you value your freedoms, turn off Fox News.
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    Interesting to see that Fox News has come down on the side of those who believe the Constitution is a living document:
    The Living Constitution is a concept in American constitutional interpretation which claims that the Constitution has a dynamic meaning or that it has the properties of a human in the sense that it changes. The idea is associated with views that contemporaneous society should be taken into account when interpreting key constitutional phrases.[1]

    While the arguments for the Living Constitution vary, they can generally be broken into two categories. First, the pragmatist view contends that interpreting the Constitution in accordance with long outdated views is often unacceptable as a policy matter, and thus that an evolving interpretation is necessary. The second, relating to intent, contends that the constitutional framers specifically wrote the Constitution in broad and flexible terms to create such a dynamic, "living" document. Opponents of the idea often argue that the Constitution should be changed through the amendment process, and that the theory can be used by judges to inject their personal values into constitutional interpretation.

    A prominent endorsement of the Living Constitution concept was heard in the 2000 presidential campaign by the Democratic candidate, Al Gore. One of its most vocal critics is Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia.
    Next thing you know, if President Obama fully supported laws to make it mandatory for every household to own a gun, then Fox would say the Second Amendment is outdated and the U.S. Army has taken the place of the militia.

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    I absolutely love Fox & Friends.
    Take me home Momma and put me to bed. I have seen enough to know I have seen too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    I absolutely love Fox & Friends.
    You remember when they tried to air the 1/2 Hour News Hour to compete with Daily Show? I think it was retooled to be Fox & Friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Tetsuro View Post
    You remember when they tried to air the 1/2 Hour News Hour to compete with Daily Show? I think it was retooled to be Fox & Friends.
    Thereby turning it into a bigger joke than The Daily Show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Wind View Post
    Interesting to see that Fox News has come down on the side of those who believe the Constitution is a living document:
    Next thing you know, if President Obama fully supported laws to make it mandatory for every household to own a gun, then Fox would say the Second Amendment is outdated and the U.S. Army has taken the place of the militia.
    what can we do to get to that point and see what happens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Wind View Post
    Thereby turning it into a bigger joke than The Daily Show.
    The Daily SHow is probably the best show on television. I cannot think of any show I'd rather watch.








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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    I absolutely love Fox & Friends.
    I'll flip over when Joe goes to commercial just to see PC at work. I love how FOX acts anti-PC but you'll see more "Token" people and conversations on FOX and Friends in a half hour than other stations bother with all week.

    I have no source for this of course, so strike it from the record as soon as you read it.. They haven't used many token Gays however that I've seen, but now I will be on lookout..
    "Cowardice asks the question 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the question, 'Is it
    Politic?' Vanity asks the question 'Is it popular?' But, conscience asks the question, 'Is it right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but one must take it because one's conscience tells one that it is right."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Tetsuro View Post
    So your argument is because Gretchen Carlson possibly eluded to the Constitution being a living document that Fox news Doesn't care about freedom or liberty?

    What did I miss there?

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    This is an official statement by Fox News?

    Oh. No. A few people from Fox had a debate with someone else from Fox.
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