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    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/ja...albe-j22.shtml



    This is 8 years old. I wonder where Alberta is now... But anyway, check this story out. I realize its very long, so I will just bold a few things and you can read it all if you choose.



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    Alberta Premier Ralph Klein is to outline this week major changes to the province’s public health insurance scheme—changes aimed at off-loading a greater portion of health-care costs onto individuals, reducing demand for publicly-funded health care services, and providing big business with increased opportunities to profit from the provision of health care.



    Klein’s announcement will come in the form of his response to a report tabled January 8 by the Alberta Premier’s Advisory Council on Health. This council was created by Klein last year to lay the groundwork for a major assault on Medicare, Canada’s universal public health insurance system. The Council is headed by Don Mazankowski, the Deputy Prime Minister in the federal Tory government of Brian Mulroney, and has been stacked with longstanding advocates of the “marketization” and privatization of health care, such as Brian Lee Crowley, President of the Atlantic Institute for Market Studies.



    No sooner did the council issue an interim report last fall that concluded the current public health system is unsustainable, than the Alberta government began a $1 million advertising campaign to promote the need for Medicare “reform.”



    The council’s second report, “A Framework for Reform,” provides Klein with 44 policy recommendations, including introducing user fees, de-listing some medical services and procedures (effectively privatizing them), hiking health insurance premiums (Alberta is one of two provinces where individuals and families pay such premiums) and contracting out management of health-care facilities.



    Many of the proposals lack specifics. The details of others, like the proposal for government-funded personal health accounts, are arcane. (The accounts would serve a double purpose—to provide a financial disincentive to people seeking medical attention and to transfer some health-care costs from the state to individuals.)



    However, the report’s central thrust is patently clear: the portion of health-care costs paid by the state must be radically scaled back and the services and procedures covered by Medicare systematically curtailed. Declares the report in its opening pages: “Medicare was never designed to cover the full range of health services available today.”



    Much of the information and most of the ideas in the council report have been recycled from earlier studies. Its tone and timing are notable, however. The council points to the months-long waiting lists for treatments for even life-threatening conditions, the chronic staff shortages, and the overcrowding of emergency rooms—the cross-Canada crisis in health care produced by more than a decade of massive budget cuts by the federal and provincial governments—to decry state inefficiency. It then holds out the false promise of empowering individuals by introducing more choice and personal responsibility in health care.



    “It’s time to open up the system,” declares the report. “Take the shackles off, allow health authorities to try new ideas, encourage competition and choice, and see what works and what doesn’t.” In truth, individual “empowerment” will mean that the well-to-do gain unfettered access to the best health care in the world, provided by for-profit health providers. Working people, on the other hand, will have to make do with an impoverished and chronically understaffed public system.



    Klein is hoping to seize the initiative in the national debate over health care and in particular to pre-empt a report on the future of Medicare that the former New Democratic Party (NDP) premier of Saskatchewan, Roy Romanow, is preparing for the federal government. Whilst Romanow has said major changes need to be made to Medicare, including the de-listing of services, the right fears that he will not go far enough, especially in privatizing services and introducing financial disincentives to drawing on the resources of the public system.



    To no one’s surprise, the Alberta report was quickly embraced by Ontario’s Tory government. In recent months, Ontario Premier Mike Harris has repeatedly threatened to make radical changes to health care, beginning with the scrapping of the province’s homecare and drug plans, if Ottawa does not boost its transfers to the province by $2 billion a year. Ernie Eaves, the frontrunner in the race to replace Harris as premier and provincial Tory leader, responded to the Alberta report by saying he too favours the imposition of user fees.



    In the past, the federal Liberals have posed as defenders of Medicare against Klein and Harris, the better to conceal their own role in drastically reducing federal health-care funding. But Alan Rock, who until last week’s cabinet shuffle was the federal health minister, declared his support for the spirit, if not all the specific recommendations, of the Alberta report. “What we need,” said Rock, “is fresh thinking ... the status quo is unacceptable.”



    The ruling class debate over heath care





    Rock’s successor, Anne McLellan, has gone considerably further. She has praised Klein for his purported commitment to the Canada Heath Act, the federal legislation that establishes national minimum standards for Medicare, and declared her eagerness to work with the provinces in redesigning public heath insurance: “I don’t think the Canada Heath Act should be etched in stone ... let’s look at the act, let’s look at modernizing it.”



    The National Post and other right-wing standard-bearers have hailed the appointment of McLellan, who in her previous post as justice minister played a pivotal role in authoring legislation that in the name of fighting terrorism runs roughshod over civil liberties. Alberta Health and Wellness Minister Gary Mar said naming the fellow Albertan McLellan Health Minister is “a strong signal from the federal government that we’re going to enter into a phase of constructive discussion and dialogue on health care.”



    All this does not preclude a future wrangle between Ottawa and Alberta or other provincial governments. The reorganization of health care raises major issues for the ruling class. Big business, especially its political representatives, are acutely aware, the crisis in the current Medicare system notwithstanding, there is widespread popular support for a universal public heath-care scheme. Canadians only have to look across the border to the United States where more than 40 million people are without any health insurance and catastrophic health-care costs are the leading cause of personal bankruptcies.



    Although the most important concern for the ruling class is how best to impose Medicare “reform” on a sceptical public, there are also serious differences over how far to go in reducing the state’s role in the provision of heath care. Different sections of the ruling class stand to gain or lose depending on how heath-care costs are shifted from the state to individuals and to what extent management functions and health-care services are privatized. The Big Three automakers, for example, have long cited Canada’s state-financed health insurance plan as giving their Canadian operations a major “competitive advantage” over their US plants. Big business proponents of the state continuing to play a major role in the provision of health care point out that the US spends large sums on determining and collecting health-care costs and devotes a larger share of its GNP to health services than Canada.



    Working class opposition to the dismantling of Medicare must begin with the recognition that all factions in the ruling class debate over heath care are agreed that the heath-care system must be reorganized at the expense of working people and that all sections of the political establishment—from the New Democrats and Parti Québécois to the Canadian Alliance—were complicit in the repeated rounds of the budget cuts that have brought Medicare to the brink of collapse.



    The federal Liberal government’s choice of Roy Romanow to head its Commission on the Future of Health Care in Canada is neither accidental nor incidental. The Liberals are calculating that because of the NDP’s historical association with the introduction of Medicare, Romanow will be better able to sell the public on the shrinking of Medicare in accordance with corporate Canada’s struggle for markets and profits. As premier of Saskatchewan, the social-democrat Romanow slashed health-care spending, closed dozens of rural hospitals, broke strikes by nurses and other health-care workers when they rebelled over staff shortages and overwork, then appointed his own commission to rethink Medicare.
    When it comes to GOP stupidity, there's no need to make stuff up.

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    Check this out. It's up to date financial data from the Alberta healthcare system. There isn't any system in the US to compare this to, but one must consider the fact that ALL citizens of Alberta get healthcare.



    http://www.albertahealthservices.ca/1421.asp
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    [quote name='Goldwater' date='09 March 2010 - 01:07 AM' timestamp='1268114878' post='126760']

    Check this out. It's up to date financial data from the Alberta healthcare system. There isn't any system in the US to compare this to, but one must consider the fact that ALL citizens of Alberta get healthcare.



    http://www.albertahe...ces.ca/1421.asp

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    Alberta Canada has 3.7 million citizens and HC operates at an annual deficit of almost a billion dollars.



    America has almost a hundred times the citizens at over 300 million and proposed annual HCR costs are 200 billion dollars and rising.



    Not very positive news, IMO...but I'm sure everything will be just fine.

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    [quote name='Goldwater' date='08 March 2010 - 10:07 PM' timestamp='1268114878' post='126760']

    Check this out. It's up to date financial data from the Alberta healthcare system. There isn't any system in the US to compare this to, but one must consider the fact that ALL citizens of Alberta get healthcare.



    http://www.albertahealthservices.ca/1421.asp

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberta

    Alberta /ælˈbɜrtə/ is the most populous and fastest growing of Canada's three prairie provinces. It is approximately the same size as France or Texas and had a population of 3.7 million in 2009



    http://www.albertahealthservices.ca/1421.asp

    Total actual revenues of $7,168M and total actual expenses of $7,546M to December 31, 2009, were both slightly better than budget, primarily due to reductions in discretionary spending and administrative savings, which include vacancy management and centralized procurement strategies.



    $7.5B / 3.7M = $2027



    So, if I understand correctly, it costs the Alberta gov about $2000 / person / year... which is actually pretty reasonable, depending on what the copay is. From my readings so far this evening, it's not 100% free there.



    I am reading more stuff on the link you provided:



    http://www.albertahealthservices.ca/1440.asp

    Alberta Health Services identified Emergency Department wait times as a priority in its Performance Measures. The target is to reduce, over the next three years, wait times for complex cases from 16 hours to 8 hours, and from 5.6 hours to 4 hours for less complex cases.



    http://www.albertahealthservices.ca/1404.asp

    At least 2,230 more surgeries and non-surgical procedures with long wait lists have been approved for the initial surge through March 31, including urgent cancer surgery, orthopedic surgery (including hip and knee replacements), gynecology, neurosurgery, heart surgery and cataract surgery. As well, 3,500 more MRI and CT scans will be added immediately.



    ~~ It does look like rationing and waiting there though.
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    [quote name='webrockk' date='08 March 2010 - 10:23 PM' timestamp='1268115839' post='126763']

    Canada has 33 million citizens and HC operates at an annual deficit of almost a billion dollars.



    America has ten times the citizens at over 300 million and proposed annual HCR costs are 200 billion dollars and rising.



    Not very positive news, IMO...but I'm sure everything will be just fine.

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    What's the source for the billion dollar deficit, Web? I'd like to check that out. I'm not saying it aint so, just a healthy skepticism.



    This article has to be ancient. It talks about Prime Minister Mulroney who left politics in disgrace in 1993 after signing NAFTA. There have been three PM's since him. He was Reagan's contemporary. Ralph Klein came into power as Alberta Premiere in 1992 so that's only one year they overlap. The article is 17 yeas old.



    Klein and his contemporary Mike Harris in Ontario instituted absolutely draconian (that was for you Sparta) cuts to public spending in their Provinces. It worked in Alberta where resources and technology are abundant, but not so much in Ontario where industry is old fashioned and low-tech. Harris and Klein wanted an end to public health care and their plan to make that happen was to cut health care to such extreme depths, make quality so bad, that people would "see the light" about how good an idea private services would be. Blackmail sick people with their own money basically.



    It's still a cause celeb' for Conservatives, but it's a dead issue. People want more and more efficient spending and better quality, not corporate decisions and corporate facilities which will make the purpose of all care maximum profit at the expense of the sick and elderly, rather than health and wellness.



    Don't blame the messenger... that's the reality of public opinion on the issue. Disagree if you will.

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    [quote name='Dr.Knuckles' date='09 March 2010 - 01:44 AM' timestamp='1268117097' post='126765']

    What's the source for the billion dollar deficit, Web? I'd like to check that out.



    This article has to be ancient. It talks about Prime Minister Mulroney who left politics in disgrace in 1993 after signing NAFTA. There have been three PM's since him. He was Reagan's contemporary. Ralph Klein came into power as Alberta Premiere in 1992 so that's only one year they overlap. The article is 17 yeas old.



    Klein and his contemporary Mike Harris in Ontario instituted absolutely draconian (that was for you Sparta) cuts to public spending in their Provinces. It worked in Alberta where resources and technology are abundant, but not so much in Ontario where industry is old fashioned and low-tech. Harris and Klein wanted an end to public health care and their plan to make that happen was to cut health care to such extreme depths, make quality so bad, that people would "see the light" about how good an idea private services would be. Blackmail sick people with their own money basically.



    It's still a cause celeb' for Conservatives, but it's a dead issue. People want more spending and better quality, not corporate decisions and corporate facilities.



    Don't blame the messenger... that's the reality of public opinion on the issue. Disagree if you will.

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    I had to edit. I missread something, but Goldwaters link stated around 850 million

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    A search for health care spending in Alberta just comes up with total spending, which is 12 billion. Can't find anything about deficits.



    Did find this though, about Alberta's suffering and misery under socialism.



    Alberta's economy is one of the strongest in Canada, supported by the burgeoning petroleum industry and to a lesser extent, agriculture and technology. It is also one of the fastest growing regions in the country. A 2003 study by TD Bank Financial Group found the corridor to be the only Canadian urban centre to amass a U.S. level of wealth while maintaining a Canadian style quality of life, offering universal health care benefits. The study found that GDP per capita in the corridor was 10% above average U.S. metropolitan areas and 40% above other Canadian cities at that time.



    According to the Fraser Institute, Alberta also has very high levels of economic freedom. It is by far the most free economy in Canada,[30] and is rated as the 2nd most free economy of U.S. states and Canadian provinces.[31]





    Ahem.... ahem.....

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    If you want anit-Obama ammo though, I would shamefully point you towards Quebec. Take ten minutes looking at that cesspool of middle ages theocracy, 20th century communism and 30's Chicago style corrpution all wraped into one chain-smoking package.



    I'll just ask you to make sure no children are watching... it's ugly.... so very, very ugly.

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    Now I have to edit - the arile is 8 years old... it talks about a guy who WAS working under Mulroney, doesn't say he IS.

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    [quote name='Dr.Knuckles' date='09 March 2010 - 01:56 AM' timestamp='1268117766' post='126767']

    A search for health care spending in Alberta just comes up with total spending, which is 12 billion. Can't find anything about deficits.



    Did find this though, about Alberta's suffering and misery under socialism.



    Alberta's economy is one of the strongest in Canada, supported by the burgeoning petroleum industry and to a lesser extent, agriculture and technology. It is also one of the fastest growing regions in the country. A 2003 study by TD Bank Financial Group found the corridor to be the only Canadian urban centre to amass a U.S. level of wealth while maintaining a Canadian style quality of life, offering universal health care benefits. The study found that GDP per capita in the corridor was 10% above average U.S. metropolitan areas and 40% above other Canadian cities at that time.



    According to the Fraser Institute, Alberta also has very high levels of economic freedom. It is by far the most free economy in Canada,[30] and is rated as the 2nd most free economy of U.S. states and Canadian provinces.[31]





    Ahem.... ahem.....

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    Sounds nice...If I didn't hate the cold so much, I might like to live there.



    This was the last sentence in the link Goldie provided: "Current forecasted operating deficit for the fiscal year is $812 million ($73 million better than projected $885 million)" Now, honestly, what that means to me, is a revenue shortfall every year as pertaining to the budget, but I'm not sure.


 
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