Thread: Federal Agents Conducting House by House Gun Checks

Federal Agents Conducting House by House Gun Checks

I will put this in local, but do not think for one second that it will not go national. We have already read reports coming from IL that the guard is looking for "illegal" guns, and have been conducting knock/talk/and search. The government is conducting an assault on gun owners, and now according to their own reports, stock piling ammo is an act of terrorism. Problem here is, there is no limit to the amount of ammo that one can have, secondly, most gun owners are law abiding citizens. It does not surprise me in the least that this is happening in TX, Perry is scum that is allowing the feds total control. He said he would support upholding the tenth, but proves himself once again to be a liar.

Here is your un-American terrorist!!!!

"House-by-house" usually means a systematic check of all houses in a given street or neighborhood. I do not believe for one second that this is the case. Hell, the article doesn't even mention a single city or town where this is happening.

Originally Posted by Djinn

"House-by-house" usually means a systematic check of all houses in a given street or neighborhood. I do not believe for one second that this is the case. Hell, the article doesn't even mention a single city or town where this is happening.

Really, huh mayhap this time you should read the article......

HOUSTON, TEXAS - The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF) agents are in the midst of fanning out across Texas in order to conduct house by house investigations into what the agency deems numerous “suspicious” firearms transactions and as a means to combat “narco-terrorism” along the U.S. /Mexican border.

It is state wide.

What exactly is the issue here? If the feds have a search warrant, they're allowed to search your house. They're also allowed to detain you for questioning during an investigation, though you don't have to answer their questions or let them inside. Unfortunately, circumstances beyond our control sometimes converge to turn us into suspects. Maybe you just bought two shotguns at a store which unbeknownst to you is the same store which sold two shotguns to a gentleman who used to live down the street until he lost his head over 10 kilos of cocaine. You just wanted them for home defense and possibly squirrel hunting but now you have agents at your house asking all kinds of questions.
I enjoy gardening and would like to start a greenhouse. Trouble is, my house gets almost no direct sunlight so what I really need is a couple of 400-watt grow lights on a timer. Now because I happen to live in an area where people are known to grow marijuana, I guarantee a 90%+ chance that some branch of law enforcement would show up to search my house in under 2 weeks.
I also enjoy photography, and this is something that happened. In 2002, I went for a long drive and ended up at a small lake supported by a small dam. This was in the middle of nowhere -- a very large, heavily forested area. The dam itself was quite old, overgrown, and photogenic, so I pulled out my trusty full-manual Canon A-1 film camera and started snapping away. Let me restate how this area would have represented the most pointless place for a terrorist attack. The destruction of the dam would have resulted in some trees getting wet; there were no houses for at least 10 miles in any direction. Naturally, a vigilant park ranger noticed my "suspicious activity" and I had to provide identification. He was generally respectful but I had gone from casual photographer to potential terrorist suspect without even knowing it!
Anyways, it's the world we live in. Know your rights, cherish their existence, exercise them when necessary, and endeavor to maintain some perspective and understanding of the situation at hand.

Originally Posted by Elvis

What exactly is the issue here? If the feds have a search warrant, they're allowed to search your house. They're also allowed to detain you for questioning during an investigation, though you don't have to answer their questions or let them inside. Unfortunately, circumstances beyond our control sometimes converge to turn us into suspects. Maybe you just bought two shotguns at a store which unbeknownst to you is the same store which sold two shotguns to a gentleman who used to live down the street until he lost his head over 10 kilos of cocaine. You just wanted them for home defense and possibly squirrel hunting but now you have agents at your house asking all kinds of questions.
I enjoy gardening and would like to start a greenhouse. Trouble is, my house gets almost no direct sunlight so what I really need is a couple of 400-watt grow lights on a timer. Now because I happen to live in an area where people are known to grow marijuana, I guarantee a 90%+ chance that some branch of law enforcement would show up to search my house in under 2 weeks.
I also enjoy photography, and this is something that happened. In 2002, I went for a long drive and ended up at a small lake supported by a small dam. This was in the middle of nowhere -- a very large, heavily forested area. The dam itself was quite old, overgrown, and photogenic, so I pulled out my trusty full-manual Canon A-1 film camera and started snapping away. Let me restate how this area would have represented the most pointless place for a terrorist attack. The destruction of the dam would have resulted in some trees getting wet; there were no houses for at least 10 miles in any direction. Naturally, a vigilant park ranger noticed my "suspicious activity" and I had to provide identification. He was generally respectful but I had gone from casual photographer to potential terrorist suspect without even knowing it!
Anyways, it's the world we live in. Know your rights, cherish their existence, exercise them when necessary, and endeavor to maintain some perspective and understanding of the situation at hand.

umm, this is warrant less. Do you honestly think they can get a warrant for entire neighborhoods. Do you take time to read the articles?

All told, Mexican officials in 2008 asked federal agents to trace the origins of more than 7,500 firearms recovered at crime scenes in Mexico. Most of them were traced back to Texas, California and Arizona.

So they traced the ownership of these guns as far as they could, then:

The mission is especially challenging because, officials say, that while Houston is the number one point of origin for weapons traced back to the United States from Mexico, the government can’t compile databases on gun owners under federal law.

Agents instead review firearms dealers’ records in person.

People who are legally in the United States and have clean criminal records, but are facing economic problems are often recruited by traffickers to buy weapons on their behalf in order to shield themselves from scrutiny.

Federal agents hunt for guns one house at a time | Chronicle | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

So how would you suggest they figure out who is selling the guns to Mexican criminals who are using them to kill people?

Originally Posted by Blueneck

So they traced the ownership of these guns as far as they could, then:



Federal agents hunt for guns one house at a time | Chronicle | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

So how would you suggest they figure out who is selling the guns to Mexican criminals who are using them to kill people?

Thats an excuse, if you want to know the truth, the US DOD sells the guns to Mexico, and their corrupt army and mayors or what ever sell them to the drug gangs. Wake up, people like you probably think you can buy fully auto 50 cals at a gun shop....

Originally Posted by michaelr

...It is state wide.

I checked with my brother-in-law, who lives in Orange, Texas. He hasn't heard of such a thing, and no one has knocked on his door.

I know that the article said it is "state-wide," but I want to know which cities have been checked so far. Just name one.

Originally Posted by Djinn

I checked with my brother-in-law, who lives in Orange, Texas. He hasn't heard of such a thing, and no one has knocked on his door.

I know that the article said it is "state-wide," but I want to know which cities have been checked so far. Just name one.

I will keep my eye on this, here is a new document, it is for person to person gun sales. I would recommend no one fills it out. Ask you family just for kicks if they received one of these in the mail. I am not saying the BATFE is mailing them, but I am curious.
http://www.thundertek.net/documents/4473.pdf