Thread: Rush Limbaugh

To me, this the last person I would think conservatives would want to turn to. He's a radical who sits there and will say controversial things just to get listeners. He's no different than people like Ann Coulter or Michael Moore. So my question is why are so many conservatives and Republicans seemingly following him if they want to be seen more moderately?

Rush is a turd with with a mouth.

Republicans need to have a huge message, but they're still the party of George Bush and our economic woes in the eyes of Conservatives and Liberals, thus the last election results.

I'm told all of the noteworthy speakers at CPAC and in the RNC were not elected officials. They are Steele, Rush, Maliki, Coulter, Hannity, O'Reilly, etc.

An elected official could never get away with what pundits can. So while the RNC and Conservative media is in "campaign mode" trying to sabotage and undermine confidence in Obama's "change"...the RNC can sort out how to get the southern evangelical Palin right, to work with whomever they can recruit back to the Republican party and form something worthy of victory in 2012.

One thing is for sure...the Republican message disquised as a Conservative outrage message...is going to give Obama hell on a daily basis without relent throughout his first term. They will not cooporate, or work together, because they will settle for no less than being in charge. This impotence is worse than death for them.

Thats why they love Rush, and slobber all over.......

Originally Posted by Traveling Bandsman

To me, this the last person I would think conservatives would want to turn to. He's a radical who sits there and will say controversial things just to get listeners. He's no different than people like Ann Coulter or Michael Moore. So my question is why are so many conservatives and Republicans seemingly following him if they want to be seen more moderately?

You know how drunken sailors do... any port in a storm.

Originally Posted by Goldwater

Republicans need to have a huge message, but they're still the party of George Bush and our economic woes in the eyes of Conservatives and Liberals, thus the last election results.

I'm told all of the noteworthy speakers at CPAC and in the RNC were not elected officials. They are Steele, Rush, Maliki, Coulter, Hannity, O'Reilly, etc.

An elected official could never get away with what pundits can. So while the RNC and Conservative media is in "campaign mode" trying to sabotage and undermine confidence in Obama's "change"...the RNC can sort out how to get the southern evangelical Palin right, to work with whomever they can recruit back to the Republican party and form something worthy of victory in 2012.

One thing is for sure...the Republican message disquised as a Conservative outrage message...is going to give Obama hell on a daily basis without relent throughout his first term. They will not cooporate, or work together, because they will settle for no less than being in charge. This impotence is worse than death for them.

Thats why they love Rush, and slobber all over.......

I tire of the party that isn't in control. Whether it was the Democrats before or the Republicans now. All they care about is getting power back. To hell with the American people, those guys we're supposed to be serving. Me First and the Gimme Gimmes...new name for them. Palin won't work out I wager. They're only digging their hole deeper.

Originally Posted by Traveling Bandsmen

So my question is why are so many conservatives and Republicans seemingly following him if they want to be seen more moderately?

What is it with you people?

The republicans lost because they moved to the center, not because they moved farther to the right.

You cannot "out-left" the democrat party.

John McCain was a moderate, oftentimes a close democrat ally in the Senate.

Where did that get him?

Originally Posted by C-101

What is it with you people?

The republicans lost because they moved to the center, not because they moved farther to the right.

You cannot "out-left" the democrat party.

John McCain was a moderate, oftentimes a close democrat ally in the Senate.

Where did that get him?

It seems to me that it was the other way around, at least during the campaign period. Now, this is only from my point of view, but it seemed like McCain was the one who never wanted to make a concession any further to the center than he was. He achingly didn't impress me and I was hoping the Republicans would put forth someone I would like.

One of the problems I find with our country is that everyone is so embedded into the radical direction of their side that they are unwilling to compromise on a thing and only want their agenda passed through. Since Obama's inauguration, he has made strides back to the left, which is more evidence to the fact. To me, the radical way, is the irrational way. Now, I know that not all think as I do and I respect that, but it just baffles me that the lot of them think Rush is the answer.

Originally Posted by C-101

What is it with you people? The republicans lost because they moved to the center, not because they moved farther to the right. You cannot "out-left" the democrat party. John McCain was a moderate, oftentimes a close democrat ally in the Senate. Where did that get him?

I think you may be giving yourself a mental consolation prize here C....The horrible truth IMO opinion is that McCain lost the election for two reasons. First, the blame for the economy was hung squarely around Bush's neck and the amount of distancing from him that McCain needed for RNC victory was impossible. Second, Obama mezmerized Americans whom were tired of the war, Karl Rove's fat little geek boy face...also...Sarah Palin made a fool of herself consistantly. The DNC did everything right and the RNC everything wrong...for a change.

That's why.

Originally Posted by Traveling Bandsman

It seems to me that it was the other way around, at least during the campaign period. Now, this is only from my point of view, but it seemed like McCain was the one who never wanted to make a concession any further to the center than he was. He achingly didn't impress me and I was hoping the Republicans would put forth someone I would like.

McCain's entire career has been one big concession.

I don't know how many times he said that he would "reach across the aisle" to the democrats during the campaign.

He also abused the word "bipartisan" in a way that was repetitive and weak.

Supporting the bailout bill was perhaps his biggest mistake.

McCain lost because he couldn't draw any sharp contrasts between himself and Obama.

Iraq is about it in terms of differences.

One of the problems I find with our country is that everyone is so embedded into the radical direction of their side that they are unwilling to compromise on a thing and only want their agenda passed through. Since Obama's inauguration, he has made strides back to the left, which is more evidence to the fact. To me, the radical way, is the irrational way. Now, I know that not all think as I do and I respect that, but it just baffles me that the lot of them think Rush is the answer.

My only concern is that the right thing is done for America.

If this means compromise, the democrat's way, or the republican's way than so be it.

Originally Posted by Goldwater

I think you may be giving yourself a mental consolation prize here C....The horrible truth IMO opinion is that McCain lost the election for two reasons. First, the blame for the economy was hung squarely around Bush's neck and the amount of distancing from him that McCain needed for RNC victory was impossible.

And what is Bush exactly?

A moderate.

Only a moderate would support or propose that bailout.

But you are right, McCain had a chance to distance himself from Bush on the bailout but didn't.

Second, Obama mezmerized Americans whom were tired of the war, Karl Rove's fat little geek boy face...also...Sarah Palin made a fool of herself consistantly. The DNC did everything right and the RNC everything wrong...for a change.

Tired of war? Lol. More like tired of the economy. Iraq was actually a positive issue for McCain because of his support of the surge.

Karl Rove had been out of Washington for a couple years, so you're wrong on that one.

Sarah Palin did make a fool out of herself. But I daresay without her McCain wouldn't have had a prayer on election night.

The DNC simply pointed at the republicans and played the blame game.

Very similar to how FDR won against Hoover.

Originally Posted by C-101

And what is Bush exactly? A moderate. Only a moderate would support or propose that bailout.

Sure Bush was a moderate, but swing voters, Democrats, and Independants didn't vote for Obama because of that. They elected Obama because he was NOT Republican. Moderate, centrist, left, or right didn't figure into it. Only the excuse making pundits tried to make it ideological to assuage Republicans from the reality that people scapegoated Bush and Republicans for everything that was wrong, when the only thing wrong they were responsible for was starting the wars.

Originally Posted by C-101

But you are right, McCain had a chance to distance himself from Bush on the bailout but didn't.

Right...he was for it, racing back to Washington to be in charge of it, then against it, then even more against it after Obama got elected. The RNC bungled that early management of his election position.

Originally Posted by C-101

Tired of war? Lol. More like tired of the economy. Iraq was actually a positive issue for McCain because of his support of the surge.

Democrats, Libertarians, and Liberals...the people who elected Obama...were tired of the war and didn't care about McCain's Pentagon connections. And Obama has settled right down into Gates's policy. Remember, Bush was wrong for starting it. If the best course of action for a mistake was the way Bush handled the last three years of his war, then so be it. What's Obama supposed to do? Make the country fail to make his political opposition look bad? Oh wait...thats what Rushies do.

Originally Posted by C-101

Karl Rove had been out of Washington for a couple years, so you're wrong on that one.

well...you got me there. However, Rove was either in the White House, or on Fox News. And is finaly starting to diminish in the shadow of Rush. Thank God.

Originally Posted by C-101

Sarah Palin did make a fool out of herself. But I daresay without her McCain wouldn't have had a prayer on election night.

True...but it was nirvana watching her talk.

Originally Posted by C-101

The DNC simply pointed at the republicans and played the blame game. Very similar to how FDR won against Hoover.

True, the blame game has been a part of politics since 50,000 bce. It took a break after WWII, then resurged under Lee Atwater and Rove.