Thread: do you think it could work....

just wondering what the chances of getting a public audit of our governments finances and policies might be if every state's attorneys general were to file suit for criminal negligence?

it seems to me that our government liable for only a few things, as it pertains to what and how they [the federal government] provide for the livelyhood of american citizens.

to name a couple biggens--imo/imw
judiceous use of our volunteer military to keep us safe.
effective, transparent, forceful regulation of our free marketplace.
creation and maintainence of infrastructure.
congruent application of law to all citezens.

on all these accounts our government is intollerably negligent. given their [the federal government] failure to uphold fiduciary (they take our money in taxes), ethical and mandated (via oath) responsabilities--we should audit at a minimum.

what are the chances of this [a public audit] actually coming to fruition without bloody conflict(s)?

btw by public i mean accountants and lawyers from every state, en mass, being thrust upon the government by WE THE PEOPLE--after all they are employed by US.

Originally Posted by AntipatheticNonconformist

just wondering what the chances of getting a public audit of our governments finances and policies might be if every state's attorneys general were to file suit for criminal negligence?

it seems to me that our government liable for only a few things, as it pertains to what and how they [the federal government] provide for the livelyhood of american citizens.

to name a couple biggens--imo/imw
judiceous use of our volunteer military to keep us safe.
effective, transparent, forceful regulation of our free marketplace.
creation and maintainence of infrastructure.
congruent application of law to all citezens.

on all these accounts our government is intollerably negligent. given their [the federal government] failure to uphold fiduciary (they take our money in taxes), ethical and mandated (via oath) responsabilities--we should audit at a minimum.

what are the chances of this [a public audit] actually coming to fruition without bloody conflict(s)?

btw by public i mean accountants and lawyers from every state, en mass, being thrust upon the government by WE THE PEOPLE--after all they are employed by US.

Welcome newbie! Man are you kidding? Try it and you will die. Hey we can't even audit the "gold" in Knox.

Originally Posted by AntipatheticNonconformist

just wondering what the chances of getting a public audit of our governments finances and policies might be if every state's attorneys general were to file suit for criminal negligence?

it seems to me that our government liable for only a few things, as it pertains to what and how they [the federal government] provide for the livelyhood of american citizens.

to name a couple biggens--imo/imw
judiceous use of our volunteer military to keep us safe.
effective, transparent, forceful regulation of our free marketplace.
creation and maintainence of infrastructure.
congruent application of law to all citezens.

on all these accounts our government is intollerably negligent. given their [the federal government] failure to uphold fiduciary (they take our money in taxes), ethical and mandated (via oath) responsabilities--we should audit at a minimum.

what are the chances of this [a public audit] actually coming to fruition without bloody conflict(s)?

btw by public i mean accountants and lawyers from every state, en mass, being thrust upon the government by WE THE PEOPLE--after all they are employed by US.

If I understand the intent of replacing angry villagers, torches, and spikey farm doohickys with lawyers sent to reconcile the will of the people with what happened in Iraq, the giant shit our economy took on us, why bridges fall into the river during rush hour, and why federal prisons have tennis courts and state penatentiaries have ass rape as part of thier welcome package....

If so, I would say "angry villiagers" are the better way to affect change.

So I guess I'm saying no. The government and former government folks have lawyers too. Oh!...and we're broke! so we shouldn't pour countless millions into proving the obvious. Everybody knows the Bush adminstration was a trainwreck. Anybody who doesn't is hopeless and we shouldn't waste money making Bush and his administration thier martyrs. Ignore them and obscurity will take them.

Originally Posted by michaelr

Welcome newbie! Man are you kidding? Try it and you will die. Hey we can't even audit the "gold" in Knox.

so your stance is no it wouldn't work?

i ask you, then, HOW do we reclaim our country? imo we have a chance, however miniscule, to affect the eminent change coming to our country. an intelligent revolution is what we need in this country. history dictates all empires fall all governments change. with 4000 years of written history we the people whould be able to employ some foresight and snatch our country back from the growing coprotocracy. for if we do not--we surely lose our country.

a "new dictatorship"--coporate conglomerate enslavement through the relegation of our future generations' perpetual debt as perscribed by the leaders we are not chin-checking. with survival dependant upon war waged by others on others faught by us [american citizens].

Originally Posted by AntipatheticNonconformist

i ask you, then, HOW do we reclaim our country?

There are lots of groups out there trying to do it. Here's one of my personal favorites.

Militia Recruiting Command

Originally Posted by AntipatheticNonconformist

so your stance is no it wouldn't work?

i ask you, then, HOW do we reclaim our country? imo we have a chance, however miniscule, to affect the eminent change coming to our country. an intelligent revolution is what we need in this country. history dictates all empires fall all governments change. with 4000 years of written history we the people whould be able to employ some foresight and snatch our country back from the growing coprotocracy. for if we do not--we surely lose our country.

a "new dictatorship"--coporate conglomerate enslavement through the relegation of our future generations' perpetual debt as perscribed by the leaders we are not chin-checking. with survival dependant upon war waged by others on others faught by us [american citizens].

The way we take it back peaceably is to do nothing. No you got me wrong, I mean just do not show up for work, allow the system of enslavement collapse. The foreign investors would pull out after 30~60 days of a general strike. Believe me, the bastards in DC will cave before that happens. Will there be some riots and provocateured riots, you bet, but will there be a full blown bloody revolution, I don't think so.

Originally Posted by michaelr

Welcome newbie! Man are you kidding? Try it and you will die. Hey we can't even audit the "gold" in Knox.

ummmm what gold in knox.. I heard they moved that out in the 70 s

Originally Posted by wingrider

ummmm what gold in knox.. I heard they moved that out in the 70 s

Thats why I quoted it, I could have said Mouse Shit, after all that is what I was thinking.

Originally Posted by michaelr

The way we take it back peaceably is to do nothing. No you got me wrong, I mean just do not show up for work, allow the system of enslavement collapse. The foreign investors would pull out after 30~60 days of a general strike. Believe me, the bastards in DC will cave before that happens. Will there be some riots and provocateured riots, you bet, but will there be a full blown bloody revolution, I don't think so.

ive thaught about this in the same terms. what i dont see is a plan of action for after the washington cave in. this is where things get bloody. we are a fractious group, us americans. without a general concensous prior to the general strike there will be nothing but infighting among the militia groups, the military, the richest 1% that can hire fighters and so on. hurricane katrina showed us that while most people just want to survive, and are willing to help others do so as well, a minority want to take advantage of the situation--a government cave would open the door for every group to try and gain control---imo.

not to mention the fact that, before the cave, martial law will be instituted and the unarmed and unwilling will be sent back to work. the top 1% in this country have the means and obvious wherewithall to impose this reality even if it is short lived. there has to be more than simply do nothing.

tangent--i have always been under the impression that martial law has to be declared to start, and has to be subsequently declared over. if this is, in fact, the case--was martial law ever declred over after the bay of pigs? i have never been able to find that answer.

I don't believe ML was declared over the Bay Of Pigs, I will look into it. Martial Law is a very broad term, was Martial law declared in Oct of last year, I would argue that it was. We know the congress was threatened with it, but to me, threatening congress with martial law, is indeed Martial law.

Leadership after a collapse in the government will mostly depend on GOOD state and local reps. There will be mayhem, that is unquestionable, but that fear can't rule if a collapse is desirable or not. The consequences are far to great.

I think a full blown general strike for an extended period would bring the government to its senses, I don't think they will have much of a choice.