Thread: Let's go for a record about Obama!

Let's see how many things we can come up with that have been used to try to undermine his credibility -

OK......GO!

I got 1:
He's not picking people based on geographic region. He's excluding the south, ergo, he really hates the south and is an elitist northern liberal.

Originally Posted by The_Bear

Let's see how many things we can come up with that have been used to try to undermine his credibility -

OK......GO!

I got 1:
He's not picking people based on geographic region. He's excluding the south, ergo, he really hates the south and is an elitist northern liberal.

Obongo is a northerner? Obama's home village is in southwestern Kenya.

Originally Posted by Defensor

Obongo is a northerner? Obama's home village is in southwestern Kenya.

thanks for adding to my list! Green on the way for you!

He is backpedaling on torture, the war, wire taps, he wants more banker bailouts, his staff is full of globalist, he is keeping Gates, and Cheney loves his foreign policy team and it don't get worse than that!

Originally Posted by michaelr

He is backpedaling on torture, the war, wire taps, he wants more banker bailouts, his staff is full of globalist, he is keeping Gates, and Cheney loves his foreign policy team and it don't get worse than that!

That's it, Obama = Cheney! Because Gates created Al-Qaeda, and Obama kept Gates, Obama loves Al-Qaeda.

Can you link me to when he said that he would end torture?

Would you have the US lose these wars?

Wiretaps in my eyes is a fairly legit criticism. As is the bailouts.
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I'd implore you to see Obama in a different light than Bush. Obama != Bush.
What I'm getting, especially from the Libertarian crowd, is that they view the world a certain way, and that they will inevitably view all presidents the same way because there are certain things that are common among presidents.
In a sense, its not Obama that you're complaining about here, but its just how anti-government you feel manifesting itself against Obama this time instead of Bush.

Originally Posted by The_Bear

That's it, Obama = Cheney! Because Gates created Al-Qaeda, and Obama kept Gates, Obama loves Al-Qaeda.

Can you link me to when he said that he would end torture?

Would you have the US lose these wars?

Wiretaps in my eyes is a fairly legit criticism. As is the bailouts.
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I'd implore you to see Obama in a different light than Bush. Obama != Bush.
What I'm getting, especially from the Libertarian crowd, is that they view the world a certain way, and that they will inevitably view all presidents the same way because there are certain things that are common among presidents.
In a sense, its not Obama that you're complaining about here, but its just how anti-government you feel manifesting itself against Obama this time instead of Bush.

Obama = Bush, PERIOD!

Originally Posted by The_Bear

That's it, Obama = Cheney! Because Gates created Al-Qaeda, and Obama kept Gates, Obama loves Al-Qaeda.

Can you link me to when he said that he would end torture?

Would you have the US lose these wars?

Wiretaps in my eyes is a fairly legit criticism. As is the bailouts.
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I'd implore you to see Obama in a different light than Bush. Obama != Bush.
What I'm getting, especially from the Libertarian crowd, is that they view the world a certain way, and that they will inevitably view all presidents the same way because there are certain things that are common among presidents.
In a sense, its not Obama that you're complaining about here, but its just how anti-government you feel manifesting itself against Obama this time instead of Bush.

MyDD :: Obama Will End Torture

The wars were won, but the government claims that we are staying so we can provide security. But that is a lie, being there makes the region less secure, and we have already trained both government security forces. They have what they need.

What I'm getting, especially from the Libertarian crowd, is that they view the world a certain way, and that they will inevitably view all presidents the same way because there are certain things that are common among presidents.
In a sense, its not Obama that you're complaining about here, but its just how anti-government you feel manifesting itself against Obama this time instead of Bush

Your right, he is establishment, through and through, therefore he will do things the establishment expects of him. Any president that is establishment will receive the same disrespect from me, as I have very little respect for the establishment That disrespect come from a very long list of abuses perpetrated on the American people.

Look, I didn't run on change, in fact I didn't run, but he did.

Originally Posted by Defensor

Obama = Bush, PERIOD!

That's my point.
You're not actually thinking about Obama, analyzing him for what he is. You're just using your already established definitions of what Bush is, and applying them to Obama.

I predict that over the next four years, you're going to attack Obama in exactly the same way that you attacked Bush.

Originally Posted by The_Bear

That's it, Obama = Cheney! Because Gates created Al-Qaeda, and Obama kept Gates, Obama loves Al-Qaeda.

Can you link me to when he said that he would end torture?

"I have said repeatedly that I intend to close Guantanamo, and I will follow through on that. I have said repeatedly that America doesn't torture, and I'm going to make sure that we don't torture. Those are part and parcel of an effort to regain America's moral stature in the world."

Obama Will Close Gitmo and End Torture | Democrats.com

Originally Posted by The_Bear

That's my point.
You're not actually thinking about Obama, analyzing him for what he is. You're just using your already established definitions of what Bush is, and applying them to Obama.

I predict that over the next four years, you're going to attack Obama in exactly the same way that you attacked Bush.

Yes, as was already established, Obama = Bush, so why should the reaction be any different?