Thread: what you can do personally

Originally Posted by nonsqtr

Hm..... yes, this is pretty revealing.

I bring to the table "self-sacrifice", and what comes back? Greed, popularity, and superiority.

Hm.....

I am extolled to self-sacrifice in Church. I find it ever so slightly repugnant when coming from people who live under a government populated by fabulously wealthy people who wouldn't economize or inconvenience themselves anywhere a camera wasn't present.

Originally Posted by Oftencold

I am extolled to self-sacrifice in Church. I find it ever so slightly repugnant when coming from people who live under a government populated by fabulously wealthy people who wouldn't economize or inconvenience themselves anywhere a camera wasn't present.

So it's "my" fault that this is the nature of my government? Hm....

Okay, I'll buy that. In an abstract kinda way.

On the other hand, that's hardly the point, is it?

Um.... I was "born", know what I'm sayin'? That stuff YOU're talkin' about, was ALREADY goin' on when I got here. Right? :laughing:

But I mean, if you'd rather listen to your minister. that is FINE with me.

I don't really care "where" you get the self-sacrifice bit. I got NO problem with it comin' from a Church. No problem 't all.

The part "I" care about, is the result, 'cause I'm kinda on what you might call the "secular" side (relative to you, that is - I mean, I got my own beliefs and faith and all that jazz) -

But I mean, that's fine with me. If you wanna consider that it comes from "somewhere else", that's fine. I care about the result. You and I have a common interest.

Originally Posted by Engine-Ear

Sparta just got a new Hyunda Santana Fey, the cadillac of minivans, you can't ask him to give that up. If I quit driving my truck, what would my fast hound dog ride in the back of? Plus, gas just dropped below $2 in my kneck of the woods.

Yep, built right here in Alabama and a good customer of mine.

And now Obama wants us to pay the union cost of the big three....

My wife also drives a Santa Fe and I drive an Azera.

My mentality is that it costs me far far less to drive and maintain and feed my 18 year old V8 gas guzzling van that it would cost me to buy a new POS hybrid, with it's higher insurance costs, higher tax, and car payments so high that it wouldn't start costing me less until it was time to replace the battery, which would cost more, so it would never cost less.

Not to mention the 2000 lb cargo capacity plus towing package.

Originally Posted by Freedom for All

My mentality is that it costs me far far less to drive and maintain and feed my 18 year old V8 gas guzzling van that it would cost me to buy a new POS hybrid, with it's higher insurance costs, higher tax, and car payments so high that it wouldn't start costing me less until it was time to replace the battery, which would cost more, so it would never cost less.

Not to mention the 2000 lb cargo capacity plus towing package.

Obama's Car Puzzle - WSJ.com

"You have in GM's Volt a perfect car of the Age of Obama -- or at least the Honeymoon of Obama, before the reality principle kicks in.


Even as GM teeters toward bankruptcy and wheedles for billions in public aid, its forthcoming plug-in hybrid continues to absorb a big chunk of the company's product development budget. This is a car that, by GM's own admission, won't make money. It's a car that can't possibly provide a buyer with value commensurate with the resources and labor needed to build it. It's a car that will be unsalable without multiple handouts from government.
AP


The first subsidy has already been written into law, with a $7,500 tax handout for every buyer. Another subsidy is in the works, in the form of a mileage rating of 100 mpg -- allowing GM to make and sell that many more low-mileage SUVs under the cockamamie "fleet average" mileage rules.
Even so, the Volt will still lose money for GM, which expects to price the car at up to $40,000...................."


Welcome to Obaminomics.


"We're talking about a headache of a car that will have to be recharged for six hours to give 40 miles of gasoline-free driving. What if you park on the street or in a public garage? Tough luck. The Volt also will have a small gas engine onboard to recharge the battery for trips of more than 40 miles. Don't believe press blather that it will get 50 mpg in this mode. Submarines and locomotives have operated on the same principle for a century. If it were so efficient in cars, they'd clog the roads by now. (That GM allows the 50 mpg myth to persist in the press, and even abets it, only testifies to the company's desperation.)

Hardly mentioned is the fact that gasoline goes bad after a few months. If the Volt is used as intended, for daily trips of 40 miles or less, the car's tank will have to be drained periodically and the gas disposed of."


And Obamamarketing

Originally Posted by Freedom for All

My mentality is that it costs me far far less to drive and maintain and feed my 18 year old V8 gas guzzling van that it would cost me to buy a new POS hybrid, with it's higher insurance costs, higher tax, and car payments so high that it wouldn't start costing me less until it was time to replace the battery, which would cost more, so it would never cost less.

Not to mention the 2000 lb cargo capacity plus towing package.

Also hybrids aren't really as green as one might think, since the battery is not recyclable. It is better to just buy a smaller, lighter car and also to use public transport or carpool whenever possible.

Originally Posted by Ausinus

Also hybrids aren't really as green as one might think, since the battery is not recyclable. It is better to just buy a smaller, lighter car and also to use public transport or carpool whenever possible.

It's better to buy a used gas hog and not clog up the junk yards.

That's too bad for companies wanting to sell new cars, but I don't work for one of those.

Close down 14 of the 15 Secret Services you are now running and then drive whenever and wherever you want.

And get some health care to boot.